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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2013, 02:08:18 pm »
we all angry..

If your angry then go use another pool sir.  This isn't some corporate company where there's hundreds of developers working around the clock. 
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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2013, 02:08:44 pm »
why are we all angry ?

: D don't be angry this seems to be going well .

i'm angry like Stimpson J Cat gets angry !

source is updated ?

....i mean ...

IS THE SOURCE UPDATED ALREADY !!!!

DAM IT !!!!!

WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME ! ? ? ? ? ?? ? !!!!!

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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2013, 02:21:31 pm »
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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2013, 02:23:48 pm »
why are we all angry ?

: D don't be angry this seems to be going well .

i'm angry like Stimpson J Cat gets angry !

source is updated ?

....i mean ...

IS THE SOURCE UPDATED ALREADY !!!!

DAM IT !!!!!

WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME ! ? ? ? ? ?? ? !!!!!

lol :) :)
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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2013, 02:24:39 pm »
we all angry..

If your angry then go use another pool sir.  This isn't some corporate company where there's hundreds of developers working around the clock.
pool? you think its a pool issue? i thought its an protocol.

And you know that someone on bitcointalk offered 1000 PTS 2 days ago,
while im mining 5 days and recieved 1.5 PTS?
i think you in same team as the guy with 1000 PTS after 3 days of mining. scammy types.
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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2013, 02:36:29 pm »
we all angry..

If your angry then go use another pool sir.  This isn't some corporate company where there's hundreds of developers working around the clock.
pool? you think its a pool issue? i thought its an protocol.

And you know that someone on bitcointalk offered 1000 PTS 2 days ago,
while im mining 5 days and recieved 1.5 PTS?
i think you in same team as the guy with 1000 PTS after 3 days of mining. scammy types.

All my servers in total is avarage: 107 to 112.1 hpm
I get about 97PTS per day average.
Who ever has 1000 in two days were solo mining when it first started and got blocks.  That's now very difficult to achieve.  When I started, i got two block for 49 PTS x 2 in 3hrs.

So, my advise to you my friend...  READ MORE before you accuse people of scamming!!!!
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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #21 on: November 10, 2013, 02:36:52 pm »
Very risky move. If you look at how protocol changes in other altcoins have been handled, where has always been a grace period of at least a couple of days. This gives all miners the time needed to update to a newer version.

What is going to happen if you don't get the majority of miners to adopt the new protocol in time?

That said, I've updated my miners (300+ cores) to the new protocol version. Lets hope that we get through this smooth.

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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2013, 02:40:54 pm »
Very risky move. If you look at how protocol changes in other altcoins have been handled, where has always been a grace period of at least a couple of days. This gives all miners the time needed to update to a newer version.

What is going to happen if you don't get the majority of miners to adopt the new protocol in time?

That said, I've updated my miners (300+ cores) to the new protocol version. Lets hope that we get through this smooth.

I have a pool with 3000 miners that has migrated and the other major pool has too.   

Solo mining already takes a week so only 10% of the solo miners will be effected because the rest would not have found anything anyway.  If the difficulty adjusted as planned pre-fork, then only 2.5% of the solo miners will lose a block and with the orphan rate you would have to assume that only 1.25% of solo miners will lose.

On the other hand the fork gives these solo miners a chance to win more over the longer term rather than having it all go to early adopters who know how to spawn up VPS cloud mining.
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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2013, 02:44:02 pm »
Very risky move. If you look at how protocol changes in other altcoins have been handled, where has always been a grace period of at least a couple of days. This gives all miners the time needed to update to a newer version.

What is going to happen if you don't get the majority of miners to adopt the new protocol in time?

That said, I've updated my miners (300+ cores) to the new protocol version. Lets hope that we get through this smooth.
i hope this community will get what it intended to get, but if it not get enough adoption its going in wrong centralized direction which is not what P2P currency mean.

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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2013, 02:45:39 pm »
Very risky move. If you look at how protocol changes in other altcoins have been handled, where has always been a grace period of at least a couple of days. This gives all miners the time needed to update to a newer version.

What is going to happen if you don't get the majority of miners to adopt the new protocol in time?

That said, I've updated my miners (300+ cores) to the new protocol version. Lets hope that we get through this smooth.
i hope this community will get what it intended to get, but if it not get enough adoption its going in wrong centralized direction which is not what P2P currency mean.

My plan is to decentralize everything, so I am actively looking into decentralized mining pools.   
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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #25 on: November 10, 2013, 02:51:24 pm »
Very risky move. If you look at how protocol changes in other altcoins have been handled, where has always been a grace period of at least a couple of days. This gives all miners the time needed to update to a newer version.

What is going to happen if you don't get the majority of miners to adopt the new protocol in time?

That said, I've updated my miners (300+ cores) to the new protocol version. Lets hope that we get through this smooth.
i hope this community will get what it intended to get, but if it not get enough adoption its going in wrong centralized direction which is not what P2P currency mean.

My plan is to decentralize everything, so I am actively looking into decentralized mining pools.
i wish you (and myself) good luck in developing this currency.

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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #26 on: November 10, 2013, 02:53:18 pm »
Very risky move. If you look at how protocol changes in other altcoins have been handled, where has always been a grace period of at least a couple of days. This gives all miners the time needed to update to a newer version.

What is going to happen if you don't get the majority of miners to adopt the new protocol in time?

That said, I've updated my miners (300+ cores) to the new protocol version. Lets hope that we get through this smooth.

I have a pool with 3000 miners that has migrated and the other major pool has too.   

Solo mining already takes a week so only 10% of the solo miners will be effected because the rest would not have found anything anyway.  If the difficulty adjusted as it should then these solo miners also wouldn't have gotten anything.  I think it will be smooth as these things go.

That is not how this works. All solo miners with the old version of the miner can be seen together as one entity with a certain hash rate. It doesn't matter that some people are not getting any blocks, some will. And its not only miners who have to upgrade, also people who just use the software to make transactions.

This could be ugly:

The old miners will just make an 4x adjustment. They accept any blocks whether it be the ones generates with lower diff (4x increase) or higher diff (32x increase max).

The new miners reject blocks with lower diff (the ones with 4x adjustment), because these blocks don't match the new requirement. However they will produce blocks much slower than the old version of the miner, so many people using an older version of the software will make invalid transactions!

Thus: Any payments made with an older version of the client could get lost and someone falling for that could easily be scammed.

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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2013, 03:02:15 pm »
cant seem to download the new protshareqt2

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« Reply #28 on: November 10, 2013, 03:03:32 pm »
cant seem to download the new protshareqt2

We are working on mirrors...
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Re: CHAIN FORK COMING....
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2013, 03:04:46 pm »
how do i update it? downlaod and then what