rebranding update

[vikram]

I was thinking more like:

BitShares DNS: Decentralized Namespace Services

DNS/P2P
DNS/KEY
DNS/DAC

"Nameshares" are shares of DNS DACs, and can also be used in place of the more verbose "bitshares DNS". More specific than "bitshares" but less specific than "P2Pshares".

This solution has the problem that traditional DNS means domains only while our DNS is all namespaces - I think this tradeoff is ok because it makes all our other stuff fit together so much more cleanly

Hmm I think I might like this. In what contexts do you see NameShares (or is it Nameshares) being used vs. BitShares DNS?

What do people think about the overloading of the DNS acronym?

[toast]

This solution has the problem that traditional DNS means domains only while our DNS is all namespaces - I think this tradeoff is ok because it makes all our other stuff fit together so much more cleanly

[toast]

I was thinking more like:

BitShares DNS: Decentralized Namespace Services

DNS/P2P
DNS/KEY
DNS/DAC

"Nameshares" are shares of DNS DACs, and can also be used in place of the more verbose "bitshares DNS". More specific than "bitshares" but less specific than "P2Pshares".

[vikram]

Making a thread specifically for feedback on last status update:

BitShares DNS is the name of the namespace DAC family, and *maybe* the name of a a possible proto-DAC for this family. If there is a proto-dac then new DACs can use burn rounds (among other options) for snapshots, if there is no proto-DAC then new chains will do burn rounds / snapshots from previous chains or PTS/AGS or both.

What used to be called "BitShares DNS" is now simply called ".p2p" - that is the name of both the blockchain and the TLD, with ".P2P" as a ticker. This will not be heavily branded with BitShares but rather will set an example of how a project can benefit from participating in the bitshares ecosystem.

Can we rename Bitshares DNS into Nameshares?

Nameshares just sounds better. Just like Namecoin/Bitcoin. Since it really has little to do with Bitshares itself, Nameshares just is simple enough to catch on.

I have thought about this in depth and concluded that the cost of pissing off all the namecoiners is totally worth it

 

I am starting to see a pattern:

• DomainShares: A single company providing a decentralized domain name mapping service
• BitShares Domains/BitShares DNS: A family of companies providing decentralized domain name mapping services
• NameShares: A family of companies providing decentralized name mapping services

Why not skip to the end:

BitShares Lookup/Bitshares Map/BitShares Dictionary: A family of companies providing decentralized (key, value) mapping services (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associative_array)

Family Members:

• BTS/MAP/P2P: Map domain names (with .p2p TLD) to IP addresses, SSL keys, etc. (similar to Namecoin's d/ prefix)
• BTS/MAP/KEY: Map personal names to PGP public keys, Keyhotee IDs, etc. (similar to Namecoin's id/ prefix)
• BTS/MAP/DAC: Map exchange ticker symbols to particular blockchains, etc.

And so on... Thoughts on this kind of generalization? Edit: I suppose the difference is subtle but at least in my head mapping keys to values seems to be more general than mapping names.

Actually I guess Namecoin exactly bills itself as a "decentralized key/value registration and transfer system" (see: http://namecoin.info/). This Name metaphor is throwing me off though, as keys can be more than just names.

[vikram]

Making a thread specifically for feedback on last status update:

BitShares DNS is the name of the namespace DAC family, and *maybe* the name of a a possible proto-DAC for this family. If there is a proto-dac then new DACs can use burn rounds (among other options) for snapshots, if there is no proto-DAC then new chains will do burn rounds / snapshots from previous chains or PTS/AGS or both.

What used to be called "BitShares DNS" is now simply called ".p2p" - that is the name of both the blockchain and the TLD, with ".P2P" as a ticker. This will not be heavily branded with BitShares but rather will set an example of how a project can benefit from participating in the bitshares ecosystem.

Can we rename Bitshares DNS into Nameshares?

Nameshares just sounds better. Just like Namecoin/Bitcoin. Since it really has little to do with Bitshares itself, Nameshares just is simple enough to catch on.

I have thought about this in depth and concluded that the cost of pissing off all the namecoiners is totally worth it

 

I am starting to see a pattern:

• DomainShares: A single company providing a decentralized domain name mapping service
• BitShares Domains/BitShares DNS: A family of companies providing decentralized domain name mapping services
• NameShares: A family of companies providing decentralized name mapping services

Why not skip to the end:

BitShares Lookup/Bitshares Map/BitShares Dictionary: A family of companies providing decentralized (key, value) mapping services (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associative_array)

Family Members:

• BTS/MAP/P2P: Map domain names (with .p2p TLD) to IP addresses, SSL keys, etc. (similar to Namecoin's d/ prefix)
• BTS/MAP/KEY: Map personal names to PGP public keys, Keyhotee IDs, etc. (similar to Namecoin's id/ prefix)
• BTS/MAP/DAC: Map exchange ticker symbols to particular blockchains, etc.

And so on... Thoughts on this kind of generalization? Edit: I suppose the difference is subtle but at least in my head mapping keys to values seems to be more general than mapping names.

[xeroc]

Also nameshare benefits from an (obvious) association with bitshares

[bitbro]

Nameshares is good, but how do we associate it with BitShares, which would strengthen all BitShares DACs and industry


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[svk]

Making a thread specifically for feedback on last status update:

BitShares DNS is the name of the namespace DAC family, and *maybe* the name of a a possible proto-DAC for this family. If there is a proto-dac then new DACs can use burn rounds (among other options) for snapshots, if there is no proto-DAC then new chains will do burn rounds / snapshots from previous chains or PTS/AGS or both.

What used to be called "BitShares DNS" is now simply called ".p2p" - that is the name of both the blockchain and the TLD, with ".P2P" as a ticker. This will not be heavily branded with BitShares but rather will set an example of how a project can benefit from participating in the bitshares ecosystem.

Can we rename Bitshares DNS into Nameshares?

Nameshares just sounds better. Just like Namecoin/Bitcoin. Since it really has little to do with Bitshares itself, Nameshares just is simple enough to catch on.

I have thought about this in depth and concluded that the cost of pissing off all the namecoiners is totally worth it

 

[jae208]

 

Nameshares

[toast]

Making a thread specifically for feedback on last status update:

BitShares DNS is the name of the namespace DAC family, and *maybe* the name of a a possible proto-DAC for this family. If there is a proto-dac then new DACs can use burn rounds (among other options) for snapshots, if there is no proto-DAC then new chains will do burn rounds / snapshots from previous chains or PTS/AGS or both.

What used to be called "BitShares DNS" is now simply called ".p2p" - that is the name of both the blockchain and the TLD, with ".P2P" as a ticker. This will not be heavily branded with BitShares but rather will set an example of how a project can benefit from participating in the bitshares ecosystem.

Can we rename Bitshares DNS into Nameshares?

Nameshares just sounds better. Just like Namecoin/Bitcoin. Since it really has little to do with Bitshares itself, Nameshares just is simple enough to catch on.

I have thought about this in depth and concluded that the cost of pissing off all the namecoiners is totally worth it

 

[luckybit]

Making a thread specifically for feedback on last status update:

BitShares DNS is the name of the namespace DAC family, and *maybe* the name of a a possible proto-DAC for this family. If there is a proto-dac then new DACs can use burn rounds (among other options) for snapshots, if there is no proto-DAC then new chains will do burn rounds / snapshots from previous chains or PTS/AGS or both.

What used to be called "BitShares DNS" is now simply called ".p2p" - that is the name of both the blockchain and the TLD, with ".P2P" as a ticker. This will not be heavily branded with BitShares but rather will set an example of how a project can benefit from participating in the bitshares ecosystem.

Can we rename Bitshares DNS into Nameshares?

Nameshares just sounds better. Just like Namecoin/Bitcoin. Since it really has little to do with Bitshares itself, Nameshares just is simple enough to catch on.

[toast]

There are multiple DNS DACs."DNS" might make sense as a name for the proto dac. But then you have to explain how to refer to .p2p blockchain specifically among other DNS dacs.

In my head its just "BTS/DNS/P2P" and "BTS/DNS family"

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[slacking]

That said, you should think about different kinds of brands.  What brand will you use to reach out to your DACs customers (.p2p) vs what brand will you use to reach out to investors in your DAC's stock? (powered by BitShares DNS) and how do you want your DAC to appear on the exchanges?  Do you want to instantly communicate that you are a profitable DAC in a specific industry with tons of support, or do you want your ticker symbol to merge into a sea of other newbies trying to get noticed?

Your first point is what I was really getting at. There is no reason the customers (people buying domains) need to understand how DACs work any more than they need to understand traditional DNS to get a .com domain. I'd love to just market ".p2p + okTurtles" to the masses.

Hmmmm, not so sure about that. If you are marketing an alternative DNS system and the key differentiator is that it's a DAC then how do you get around explaining how DAC's work and what their value proposition is? If I'm trying to get someone to accept .p2p over .com there has to be a good reason for going with the less recognizable domain name. But in any event, why can't the two things co-exist? Bitshares DNS is the DAC's name and it's brand, .p2p is simply one (I assume there will be others) of the top level domains available to website registrants.

[jae208]

Someone just needs to create a fork and let the market decide if it wants .p2p
Or BitsharesDNS.  Im putting my money on the Bitshares brand.

[oldman]

Manned = corrupt

Unmanned /= corrupt

The sell is basically that DACs don't allow humans to f*ck everything up.

Not sure how to get that into consumer-friendly packaging.

Brian?