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 +5% +5% +5% - This is exciting news

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Amazing! +5% +5%

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Vitalik seems like a legit guy.  Always saw him as one of the really awesome people in the project.  And to hear this about his opinions on POW being Dead... is music to the ears. 

It is nice to see that is under consideration.  DPOS needs to work on figuring out this voting thing though in some way that scales and makes it worth a user's time to be as informed as they can. 

Never thought I would say this, but I may actually purchase ether if this becomes more than just a fling..

for me you both are the brightest stars in crypto and if we good join forces with ethereum both projects could be improve a lot. so you are the alpha and the omega in bitshares  +5% +5%

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Too bad AdamBL is gone for the dogeparty .. :D

pretty sure he would have had an opinion on this :)

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Thanks for sharing it like this on the fly!

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This week I am meeting with Vitalik to discuss a partnership between our two projects.  We spent several hours last night and 5 hours to day talking about blockchain technology and challenges we both face.   I am happy to report that we are finding some common ground and are planning more regular collaboration.

Some of the things we have discussed is:

Moving Ethereum to DPOS
Honoring AGS/PTS with some of the stake saved by not mining Ether.
Distributing the Mining Rewards via Delegates
Improving the performance of Ethereum
BitAssets, DNS, and other market algorithms.

Vitalik seems to be of the opinion that DPOS is the way to go and the best overall compromise.  He appears to recognize proof of work as dead and I have shown him that the "nothing at stake" argument does not apply to DPOS.    We will be working to improve upon DPOS.

With respect to Turing Completeness and claims that Ether can do everything and anything, we had a deep discussion regarding the lack of first class data structures (heaps & trees) in Ether and even had some discussion on alternative abstraction on their data store.    DPOS could significantly enhance the types of contracts ethereum could run by greatly increasing speed and effectively eliminating the potential for chain reorganizations. 

Effectively my goal is to make both projects better and to secure AGS/PTS holders a stake in Ether.  Our two communities can then work together to fill the various niches in the DAC ecosystem as we both agree that in its current incarnation Ethereum is not well suited to implementing many of the algorithms we have proposed for BitShares DACs.

Other areas of potential collaboration is our wallet technology.  Our architectures are very similar and there is potential we may be able to combine resources here.

Vatalik is a smart guy and the two of us working together really helps sharpen both of us. 

Nothing final at this stage, but I am optimistic a lot of good will come out of this.

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+5%  +5%  That sounds great! Thanks for letting us know!

I guess Vitalik must be happy for us to share that info? - That Vitalik/Ethereum is strongly considering DPOS?

Vitalik and I are not very "political" and mostly care about the best technology for the job.   I am merely expressing my perspective on the conversation and will let him speak for himself.   

That is something I have in common with you two and a position I respect.

With DPoS if they decide to go with that they can use virtual mining or any mechanism they want to attract miners and with virtual mining I don't see the really bad aspects yet it preserves a lot of the good.
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for me you both are the brightest stars in crypto and if we good join forces with ethereum both projects could be improve a lot. so you are the alpha and the omega in bitshares  +5% +5%

 +5% 'Two heads are better than one' and now arguably the two best heads in crypto are working together for mutual benefit! It doesn't get much better than that! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q9VEKdoCkA


I re-posted it here... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740684.0

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Too bad AdamBL is gone for the dogeparty .. :D

pretty sure he would have had an opinion on this :)

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Music to my ears. This is fantastic!  A dream team.  +5% 

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double damn!!   great news   +5% to the infinate power
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holy moly .. that sounds soooo amazing ... good job you two ..
BM as usual focuses on hard facts and technology instead of politics and blahblah .. +5% awesome