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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #330 on: October 15, 2014, 10:57:56 am »
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If you were interested in upcoming bitshares DACS that honor the PTS/AGS
snapshot social consensus .. than you should buy pts

if i did buy some PTS/AGS how do I get "my share" of future DACS

is there a publicly (transparent) blockchain-explorer type site where these 10% allocations are viewable?

I see the point of new dacs "giving" to PTS/AGS holders, but how do they "give" is there a nice site to browse previous allocations like that?

I found this awesome site:http://www.bitsharesblocks.com/

I was thinking of something like this, with PTS/AGS allocation history added... anyhow, I thought I would post this, incase someone else stumbles here

Very nice way of quoting yourself, happybit! I should learn this style myself.

I just added the answer to my own question... isn't this a good way of doing it?

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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #331 on: October 15, 2014, 08:16:06 pm »
I am new here. So I just read probably 10% of the content in this forum. And this is a lot, believe me!

So, I unsuccessfully tried to find the thread(s) where a discussion took place something similar to - "bitUSD is actually additional money, which will lead to or even already is inflation, bla-bla-bla'

I do not think that is correct - for every 1 bitUSD holder there is a short position holder effectively having - 1 bitUSD. So the premise is wrong. End of story.

So, the question is - what was the arguments of the other side claiming there are actually somehow new $ in circulation?

PS
Ironically enough bitUSD is a zero sum game.

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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #332 on: October 15, 2014, 09:13:43 pm »
@zerosum:
- 1bitUSD is backed by BTSX worth 1,5-3 USD .. (collateral for shorts)
- a bitUSD could (in theory) only end up being unbacked in a flash crash / black swan event

plenty of discussion of the latter can be found here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7032.0

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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #333 on: October 16, 2014, 12:24:24 am »

How do I change the default tx fee which is currently in the same asset, so my bitAsset transfer pay the transaction fee in BTSX?

In the GUI preferably, but if not possible, in the console is fine too.

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« Reply #334 on: October 16, 2014, 01:54:27 am »
There is only one fee in BTSX.   It gets converted into the equal bit asset amount automatically.

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« Reply #335 on: October 16, 2014, 02:29:06 am »

How do I change the default tx fee which is currently in the same asset, so my bitAsset transfer pay the transaction fee in BTSX?

In the GUI preferably, but if not possible, in the console is fine too.

In the GUI you can go to preferences and select your fee though you cannot change how it is calculated.

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« Reply #336 on: October 16, 2014, 04:02:09 pm »
This question is from a friend:

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:Why is the core code in libraries? ... libraries are always external.

:101 noob mistake...  you call it \src

:i just don't understand, like, not even putting the effort in proper code structure
: they have a market engine? hmmm
: ok, that is interesting
: normally in any source base, you clearly distinguish between your own code and foreign code
: so, libs is where you put all the stuff you use
: src is where you put your own source code

: // prime the pump, to make sure that margin calls (asks) have a bid to check against.
: they have margining in there...
: this is such, such a bad idea

: but how do they plug the exchange engine into their blockchain?!


Please help me respond to him, I'm trying to get him to take a closer look at Bitshares.  [i do not code, but will forward your response to him]
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« Reply #337 on: October 17, 2014, 02:21:41 am »
Ask him to join the the dev hangout tomorrow and talk to Dan himself. Most likely Dan might agree some standards could have been better followed.

Also even if your friend just wants to listen in it would give a much better feel for what the project all about right from the horse's mouth. A $50MM market cap, the fourth highest crypto on the planet, indicates that his opinion of it being "such , such a bad idea" is in the minority.

Come join us on tomorrow's dev chat. Come talk with us. The water's fine :) .

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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #338 on: October 17, 2014, 02:12:27 pm »
The problem started like this:

BTER is again experiencing problems with BTSX products...

After failing repeatedly my BTSX and bitUSD withdrawals claiming my account is not registered, I finally decide to use my public key. Now it says -'Waiting for balance...' for 20 min already.

Now the transfer is finalized supposedly... But I did not get the funds it seams. I found the transactions and tried
Code: [Select]
wallet_rescan_blockchain
wallet_recover_transaction <transaction_id_prefix> [recipient_account]   
and wallet_regenerate_keys <account_name> <max_key_number> 
Neither producing results.

The questions are:
Code: [Select]
blockchain_get_transaction <transaction_id>Provides several ids, neither one of them is the one I gave bter to transfer the funds to.
1. Is this how it is supposed to be?  How I check if they did send the funds to me and not somebody else?
2. I f not which of those has to be the one I (or whoever received the funds) is the id of the party receiving the funds. It has:

1.
Code: [Select]
"type": "withdraw_op_type",
        "data": {
          "balance_id": "BTSXA5eyQwJUPd4AmaudVx6u8aUpfKXk5VdYa",
2. 2 here:
Code: [Select]
["type": "deposit_op_type",
        "data": {
          "amount": 1625678000,
          "condition": {
            "asset_id": 0,
            "delegate_slate_id": 0,
            "type": "withdraw_signature_type",
            "data": {
              "owner": "BTSX3RF97vighDgFR7RGEoS8rpLYtJCE5xRm5",
              "memo": {
                "one_time_key": "BTSX8ak3SJFQdt7BgHpS3AawzhZe3mREqUHnPPwEYyJh6bLRSPVzhS",
3.
Code: [Select]
"provided_deposits": [[
      "BTSX9RptBKVDGHkZEn49TeDKS9ENBAQRaNoDT",{

The withdrawal btw should have gone to :
BTSX5e9S3uTdhLsKg7JwPFp79p4VscPAyrPHb4oUzy6kW9FzcirpEf

if this helps...

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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #339 on: October 17, 2014, 04:22:41 pm »
i am almost give up on btsx

first time i got my btsx was on ver 0.3.x, then i keep following the update, on each version i back up my wallet to .json
after long time i dont touch btsx, i start to download latest version ( 0.4.20 ) , then just overwrite it to my old btsx wallet
blockchain is synced, but when i logged there are no account, then i do wallet_backup_restore , but wallet complained that the wallet name already exists, then i do wallet_open , my account is open i can see my transaction history, but still no account, i can''t go to market because wallet say i need to create account

is there a simple way, that i can just keep my private key, and import the key to any client i want ? its just to complicated, and it seems the wallet is never finish
btsx delegate : wallet_approve_delegate delegate.cryptoport
btsx seednode : network_add_node "54.254.168.208:443"

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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #340 on: October 17, 2014, 04:26:05 pm »
i am almost give up on btsx

first time i got my btsx was on ver 0.3.x, then i keep following the update, on each version i back up my wallet to .json
after long time i dont touch btsx, i start to download latest version ( 0.4.20 ) , then just overwrite it to my old btsx wallet
blockchain is synced, but when i logged there are no account, then i do wallet_backup_restore , but wallet complained that the wallet name already exists, then i do wallet_open , my account is open i can see my transaction history, but still no account, i can''t go to market because wallet say i need to create account

is there a simple way, that i can just keep my private key, and import the key to any client i want ? its just to complicated, and it seems the wallet is never finish
1) Close the client
2) On windows .. in the directory "%APPDATA%\BitShares X" there is a folder called "wallets" .. rename it to walletsBackup or something similar and
3) start the client again
4) import from backup (main menu)!
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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #341 on: October 17, 2014, 04:30:55 pm »
i am almost give up on btsx

first time i got my btsx was on ver 0.3.x, then i keep following the update, on each version i back up my wallet to .json
after long time i dont touch btsx, i start to download latest version ( 0.4.20 ) , then just overwrite it to my old btsx wallet
blockchain is synced, but when i logged there are no account, then i do wallet_backup_restore , but wallet complained that the wallet name already exists, then i do wallet_open , my account is open i can see my transaction history, but still no account, i can''t go to market because wallet say i need to create account

is there a simple way, that i can just keep my private key, and import the key to any client i want ? its just to complicated, and it seems the wallet is never finish
1) Close the client
2) On windows .. in the directory "%APPDATA%\BitShares X" there is a folder called "wallets" .. rename it to walletsBackup or something similar and
3) start the client again
4) import from backup (main menu)!

i am on osx, do you know where the path is ?
btsx delegate : wallet_approve_delegate delegate.cryptoport
btsx seednode : network_add_node "54.254.168.208:443"

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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #342 on: October 17, 2014, 04:35:28 pm »
~/Library/Application Support/BitShares X/
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« Reply #343 on: October 17, 2014, 04:36:27 pm »
i am almost give up on btsx

first time i got my btsx was on ver 0.3.x, then i keep following the update, on each version i back up my wallet to .json
after long time i dont touch btsx, i start to download latest version ( 0.4.20 ) , then just overwrite it to my old btsx wallet
blockchain is synced, but when i logged there are no account, then i do wallet_backup_restore , but wallet complained that the wallet name already exists, then i do wallet_open , my account is open i can see my transaction history, but still no account, i can''t go to market because wallet say i need to create account

is there a simple way, that i can just keep my private key, and import the key to any client i want ? its just to complicated, and it seems the wallet is never finish
1) Close the client
2) On windows .. in the directory "%APPDATA%\BitShares X" there is a folder called "wallets" .. rename it to walletsBackup or something similar and
3) start the client again
4) import from backup (main menu)!

i am on osx, do you know where the path is ?

nevermind, i got it
btsx delegate : wallet_approve_delegate delegate.cryptoport
btsx seednode : network_add_node "54.254.168.208:443"

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Re: !!! Stupid Questions Thread !!!
« Reply #344 on: October 17, 2014, 04:40:34 pm »
The problem started like this:

BTER is again experiencing problems with BTSX products...

After failing repeatedly my BTSX and bitUSD withdrawals claiming my account is
not registered, I finally decide to use my public key. Now it says
-'Waiting for balance...' for 20 min already.
That is an issue we cannot help with .. because we just don't know what bter is
doing when you add a public key to that field .. which btw you are not supposed
to do as stated in RED letters next to the field!

Now the transfer is finalized supposedly... But I did not get the funds it seams. I found the transactions and tried
Code: [Select]
wallet_rescan_blockchain
wallet_recover_transaction <transaction_id_prefix> [recipient_account]   
and wallet_regenerate_keys <account_name> <max_key_number> 
Neither producing results.

The questions are:
Code: [Select]
blockchain_get_transaction <transaction_id>Provides several ids, neither one of them is the one I gave bter to transfer the funds to.
1. Is this how it is supposed to be?  How I check if they did send the funds to me and not somebody else?
2. I f not which of those has to be the one I (or whoever received the funds) is the id of the party receiving the funds. It has:

1.
Code: [Select]
"type": "withdraw_op_type",
        "data": {
          "balance_id": "BTSXA5eyQwJUPd4AmaudVx6u8aUpfKXk5VdYa",
2. 2 here:
Code: [Select]
["type": "deposit_op_type",
        "data": {
          "amount": 1625678000,
          "condition": {
            "asset_id": 0,
            "delegate_slate_id": 0,
            "type": "withdraw_signature_type",
            "data": {
              "owner": "BTSX3RF97vighDgFR7RGEoS8rpLYtJCE5xRm5",
              "memo": {
                "one_time_key": "BTSX8ak3SJFQdt7BgHpS3AawzhZe3mREqUHnPPwEYyJh6bLRSPVzhS",
3.
Code: [Select]
"provided_deposits": [[
      "BTSX9RptBKVDGHkZEn49TeDKS9ENBAQRaNoDT",{

The withdrawal btw should have gone to :
BTSX5e9S3uTdhLsKg7JwPFp79p4VscPAyrPHb4oUzy6kW9FzcirpEf

if this helps...

Due to the security and privacy features in BTSX (called TITAN) .. the
address/key you see in the transaction is linked to your (supposedly) account
name in a way that prohibits linking to your account if you are not holding the
private key. It' basically "stealth addresses" in bitcoin. Read more about this
in the wiki.bitshares.org

From where I stand, there is no way to say, if this transaction should end up
on your account or in someone elses account. However vikram (a core developer)
just recently added a new feature to the wallet that can tell you for sure if
the transaction went to your account or not .. but it's not released yet
(actually he pushed the code yesterday :) )

https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares_toolkit/issues/832#event-176959796

I'd recommend you contact BTER support and ask them what they did when you use
a pubkey instead of an account name
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