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Offline clayop

Will Music be merged into BTS?
« on: October 22, 2014, 01:50:29 AM »

Many are worrying about the future of music, suffering from uncertainty. I would suggest cob and Music team clarify the next step of Music; Will it be merged or independent? IMHO, music is not a core component of "DAC-OS", hence it should not be included in BTS.
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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2014, 02:51:39 AM »
They are thinking about it; no decision will be made for some time.

Cob has posted about this a couple of times in other threads, but I can't find those at the moment. Basically, they're considering it.
« Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 02:53:59 AM by donkeypong »

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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2014, 02:52:30 AM »
I suppose it'll depend on how much they would benefit from using the shared Bitshares bitUSD on the back end rather than their own version of it.

Would there really be any other potential benefit to them other than that?

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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2014, 02:54:18 AM »
I suppose it'll depend on how much they would benefit from using the shared Bitshares bitUSD on the back end rather than their own version of it.

Would there really be any other potential benefit to them other than that?

How about this for other potential benefits?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10293.msg135123#msg135123
« Last Edit: October 22, 2014, 02:57:31 AM by Stan »
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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2014, 03:15:35 AM »
They are thinking about it; no decision will be made for some time.

Cob has posted about this a couple of times in other threads, but I can't find those at the moment. Basically, they're considering it.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10258.msg134826#msg134826
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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2014, 03:27:14 AM »
They are thinking about it; no decision will be made for some time.

Cob has posted about this a couple of times in other threads, but I can't find those at the moment. Basically, they're considering it.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10258.msg134826#msg134826

Thanks. My guess is that Music won't be merged to BTS, but will be "on" the BTS system as a DAPP.
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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2014, 04:52:30 AM »
They are thinking about it; no decision will be made for some time.

Cob has posted about this a couple of times in other threads, but I can't find those at the moment. Basically, they're considering it.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10258.msg134826#msg134826

Thanks. My guess is that Music won't be merged to BTS, but will be "on" the BTS system as a DAPP.

Yes, that would seem to make the most sense. Bitshares doesn't need Music as part of its core, and Music can succeed and grow on its own. Besides, lumping Music into Bitshares along with other unrelated DACs might reduce the Music devs' focus and weaken their incentives to grow and improve their DAC.

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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2014, 04:54:38 AM »
I suppose it'll depend on how much they would benefit from using the shared Bitshares bitUSD on the back end rather than their own version of it.

Would there really be any other potential benefit to them other than that?

How about this for other potential benefits?

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=10293.msg135123#msg135123

How would that make a difference on the back end for cob and other front end competitor developers that use the DAC as the back end?  Not saying it wouldn't but I'm not seeing the benefit of a "DAC-OS" for them.

Won't their primary target be non-crypto people?  I think for the foreseeable future their best bet for market penetration will be a regular web/mobile app and standard marketing.

Also I imagine the front end they do build will be highly specialized for their purposes.  Would there be pre-existing code or tools that would help them build peertracks better or faster that they could only leverage if they hook into a back-end Music Dapp that is part of the superDAC rather than a standalone chain?

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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2014, 08:36:23 AM »
The new big DAC-OS is a kind of centralization... same delegates, etc. I like it as a BTSX upgrade, but I really wish the music DAC stays independent. I would hate it if the money I sent to music AGS is just buying me more BTS under conditions I have no control on whatsoever...
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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2014, 10:55:16 AM »
The new big DAC-OS is a kind of centralization... same delegates, etc. I like it as a BTSX upgrade, but I really wish the music DAC stays independent. I would hate it if the money I sent to music AGS is just buying me more BTS under conditions I have no control on whatsoever...

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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2014, 11:04:26 AM »
Won't their primary target be non-crypto people?  I think for the foreseeable future their best bet for market penetration will be a regular web/mobile app and standard marketing.

Also I imagine the front end they do build will be highly specialized for their purposes.  Would there be pre-existing code or tools that would help them build peertracks better or faster that they could only leverage if they hook into a back-end Music Dapp that is part of the superDAC rather than a standalone chain?

That's the idea. The web and mobile app will be targeted at the masses, not the crypto people.

The new big DAC-OS is a kind of centralization... same delegates, etc. I like it as a BTSX upgrade, but I really wish the music DAC stays independent. I would hate it if the money I sent to music AGS is just buying me more BTS under conditions I have no control on whatsoever...

The final decision depends very much on the final technical implementation of the DAC-OS and the community discussion. There are of course pros and cons to both sides.

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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2014, 11:08:04 AM »
I would think that the time to market would be much quicker using Bitshares blockchain compared to launching a brand new one, not to mention other economies of scale regarding resources, development etc...From what I concluded observing the DNS blockchain launch, it's quite an effort and not for the timid.  Lots of issues, problems, things that can go wrong, politics, user support etc.....all would probably be easier and quicker if they use Bitshares blockchain and user defined assets. 


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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2014, 04:33:29 PM »
New chain (BTS) that will fork from BTSX and honor PTS, DNS, VOTE, and AGS... simple upgrade and exchanges will simply rename BTSX to BTS. 

Buy BTSX gives you 1:1 stake in BTS.... and you just upgrade your wallet.
Buy PTS gives will give you a slight advantage if you are willing to let your funds vest over 2 years.
Buy DNS gives will give you a similar advantage if you are willing to let your funds vest over 2 years.
BitAssets, Accounts, and User Issued assets are unaffected.

I will only be focusing on BTS and it will incorporate the features of DNS, KeyID, BTSX, VOTE and Ethereum on one chain called BitShares (BTS). 

Play/Music are currently planning their own separate chains that will borrow our technology but still plan to honor PTS/AGS.

*note....whether or not the PTS/DNS price reflects a fair discount is hard to say. 

PTS & DNS will continue as a chains that must find and grow the own community and leaders.

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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2014, 04:49:43 PM »
I'm currently working on some design ideas for the branding for MUSIC. See here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9930.msg132485#msg132485

With all the talk or mergers etc, can anyone confirm whether or not I should continue work on this area or hold off until we are 100% sure that MUSIC will be branded differently to BTS?

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Re: Will Music be merged into BTS?
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2014, 04:55:35 PM »
I think thas has to be addressed ASAP. Especially as the presale is still running.

 

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