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Offline stuartcharles

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Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« on: November 06, 2014, 10:23:05 AM »

Is there something i don't know? I thought they would be near worthless today.

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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2014, 10:40:28 AM »
Yes, there are talks of making a DPOS version of PTS so that independent airdrops could be done that honor the old contract. Just like PLAY. I think the Chinese community has abandoned BTS but are sticking with PTS. (Not all but some)

Whether that will go anywhere is another story.

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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2014, 10:40:58 AM »
Also not sure any mining is happening I.e. Not sure transfers in/out of exchanges would work.

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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2014, 10:45:25 AM »
people should accept change. I dont understand why everyone seems to care so much about PTS instead of moving on. It will just divide the community and it's resources
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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2014, 10:50:02 AM »
It was a blatant violation of the social contract. PTS holders are no longer entitled to 10% of future DACs. Can't expect people to just let that go. I agree with the change it was necessary, but it did affect some folks, it will leave a scar regardless.

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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2014, 11:30:19 AM »
Yes, there are talks of making a DPOS version of PTS so that independent airdrops could be done that honor the old contract.

I think this could be a very interesting project. Not really excited about the airdrops, but a simple DPOS altcoin, that's been fairly mined, widely distributed, with some devs with large positions, and the potential for compensated delegates (think dev, marketing, legal). That's got good potential.
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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2014, 11:39:03 AM »
Yes, there are talks of making a DPOS version of PTS so that independent airdrops could be done that honor the old contract. Just like PLAY. I think the Chinese community has abandoned BTS but are sticking with PTS. (Not all but some)

Whether that will go anywhere is another story.

lol

with a combined 24h volume at $8000  http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitshares-pts/#markets
talking about it "seriously" makes me thing you are joking! I really don't want to think something else(?)
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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2014, 11:46:15 AM »
whatever shit-coins-bitcoin-clones  are compared with bitcoin...
the same will be the case with most dpos-clones compared to bitshares...

so be very careful with the future mega-shit-dpos-pump coins.
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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2014, 11:56:48 AM »
I think the Chinese community has abandoned BTS but are sticking with PTS. (Not all but some)

Why am I feeling that you are spreading FUD (?)
My apologize if my bad English is the reason I made this assumption
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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2014, 12:01:48 PM »
I think the Chinese community has abandoned BTS but are sticking with PTS. (Not all but some)

Why am I feeling that you are spreading FUD (?)
My apologize if my bad English is the reason I made this assumption
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I am feeling as well that he is spreading FUD.

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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2014, 12:51:40 PM »
It was a blatant violation of the social contract. PTS holders are no longer entitled to 10% of future DACs. Can't expect people to just let that go. I agree with the change it was necessary, but it did affect some folks, it will leave a scar regardless.

False.  PTS and AGS continue to represent the exact same demographics as always and developers have the same motivation to target them with air drops.   We continue to recommend that the community insist on that behavior from developers seeking their support.  And PTS and AGS holders also naturally benefit from all efforts to grow the value of BTS.
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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2014, 02:57:29 PM »
I'm pretty sure the buying on Bter is mostly arbitrage bots. Some exchanges (like Cryptsy) still have very high prices, so a naive arbitrage bot could be buying up all the cheap PTS in order to sell it on the expensive exchanges.

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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2014, 03:08:26 PM »
It was a blatant violation of the social contract. PTS holders are no longer entitled to 10% of future DACs. Can't expect people to just let that go. I agree with the change it was necessary, but it did affect some folks, it will leave a scar regardless.

No, dacs can still honor whatever they like. Look at PLAY

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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2014, 03:46:25 PM »

It was a blatant violation of the social contract. PTS holders are no longer entitled to 10% of future DACs. Can't expect people to just let that go. I agree with the change it was necessary, but it did affect some folks, it will leave a scar regardless.

False.  PTS and AGS continue to represent the exact same demographics as always and developers have the same motivation to target them with air drops.   We continue to recommend that the community insist on that behavior from developers seeking their support.  And PTS and AGS holders also naturally benefit from all efforts to grow the value of BTS.

Lol. Come on man. Let's call a spade a spade. Will prior AGS and PTS holders take in 10% each? Or will it be 7% of 10% or in other words 0.7% of future DACs instead of 10%. Are you sure, you honored that contract?

No, I have no interest in spreading FUD. I've been a supporter of this project for quite some time. That said I am glad I have reduced my position. But am still vested.

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Re: Am i missing somthing? price of PTS are going up AFTER snapshot?
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2014, 03:47:43 PM »
It was a blatant violation of the social contract. PTS holders are no longer entitled to 10% of future DACs. Can't expect people to just let that go. I agree with the change it was necessary, but it did affect some folks, it will leave a scar regardless.

Why do you people keep harping on this? Read Stan's and toadt's replies, then note that PLAY and RandPaulCoin are both honoring the November 5 snapshot.

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