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虽然我认为 bitusd 的锚定理论上已经成功了,波动不大,且在30天内总能按 feed price 买到 bts。


但这样的结果对大多数人来说是不可接受的,大众认为的锚定,一定要能随时按1:1兑换到人民币。


到底是什么导致理想和现实的差距呢?

1. 一般来说,对锚定有信心的人,应该是有很强的动力提供1:1兑换赚取手续费,为什么他们没有这样做?因为无法确定多少资金做锚定才是合适的,如果bitcny发行量太大,会导致在一定时间内承担bitcny全砸在手上的风险。


2. 就算有人提供兑换了,bitcny在支付应用上也有风险,如果他的发行量过小,根本无法满足流通需求。比如现在 40万bitcny发行量,交易所根本不可能用它来取代法币的地位。如果市场上太多人看空BTS,那么人们就没动力去及发行BTA了。

可以看到,这两个问题都跟发行量有关系,因为 bitcny 发行量的不可控,导致配套应用很难展开。

假如我们让他的发行量根据需求可控呢?根据市场对 bitcny 的实际承兑能力及流通需求,设定 bitcny 发行的最大值和最小值,由delegate喂给系统。

当发行量小于最低限制时,鼓励 short 单成交,比如免除利息,免除空单30天过期限制。

当发行量超过最高限制时,停止 short 单成交。

因为承兑服务是盈利的,所有愿意提供承兑服务的人定期提供自己账户证明,汇总后作为承兑能力参考。

而愿意使用 bitcny 的商户,则应提供自己对 bitcny 需求量,作为流通需求参考。

我相信做到这一步后会出现大量愿意提供承兑的个人和愿意使用其支付的商家

Translations :
Although I think the peg theory works , the fluctuation is not much , and you can always sell the peg asset for BTS at the open market rate according to the price feed within 30 days .
But this kind of effort is not that acceptable in the eyes of the general public . Because the peg demand from the public is that it can be converted to fiat at all time for 1:1 .

So , what's causing the difference between the ideal demand and the reality ?

1. Generally speaking , the people who believed in the peg should have incentive to provide 1:1 exchange for fees . Why didn't they ? Because they can't be sure they should put in how much fiat money for this kind of exchange  . If the issuing amount of BTA is to much for the market to bear , then the people who provide this exchange service would have a lot of BTA but no fiat money .

2 . Even if some one provide such a exchange service , the issuing amount still can not meet the demand if the issuing amount is too small (comparing to the potential demand .).  For example , there are just 0.4 million BitCNY now , major exchanges would not consider to use it as some sort of redeem code to be a on-ramp or off-ramp . If too many people on the market don't think the price of BTS will rise , they don't have the incentive to issue new BTA .

So , as we can see , these two issues are related to the issuing amount .  Because if the issuing amount is unpredictable , it leads to uncertainty for those who offer to exchange it with fiat .

But what if we can control the issuing amount base on market demand ? The delegates can feed a maximum and minimum amount for the issuing of BTA according to the actual demand for BitCNY and the need for circulation .

When the issuing amount is lower than the minimum amount , the system encourages the shorts to execute by a discount on interest or lift the limit for the short order to expire after 30 days .

When the issuing amount higher than the maximum limit , the short orders should not be execute .

Because being an simple exchange between fiat and BTA is profitable , those who want to provide such service should gave financial proof to the public , the delegates gather those numbers to provide maximum demand parameters for the system.

Those who want to hold and use BTA , should provide their demand for BTA as well , so the delegates can gather them to provide minimum demand parameters for the system .

I believe this way we can have a lot of individuals who will exchange BTA for fiat , and merchants who will use BTA as a payment tool.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 10:28:57 AM by cn-members »

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Re: 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 07:29:05 AM »
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Re: 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2014, 07:48:47 AM »
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Re: 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2014, 08:11:52 AM »
承兑所不应该是单方面回收bitcny的 他一样可以出售bitcny的 承兑所应该是双向的。如果所有人都只拿bitcny换法币 那么锚定一样是不成功的。
至于为什么没有出现承兑所,一方面应该是顾虑法律的问题,一方面可能觉得市场不大,难以支撑。我觉得做承兑所应该从bitusd开始做好一点,反正有汇率可以算的。

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Re: 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2014, 10:15:10 AM »
现在拿什么吸引承兑商是急需解决的!

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Re: 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2014, 10:57:21 AM »
承兑商才是关键所在,央行禁止银行为交易平台充值为bitCNY提供了很好的机会。为各平台规避充值风险。
1、向各交易平台推广bitCNY,用bitCNY做为交易平台的法币,用户充值获得bitCNY,提现则交还bitCNY
2、用3i持有的bts发行bitCNY,根据交易平台的规模,无偿质押一定数量的bitCNY给交易平台使用,便于交易平台初期开展此项业务。如交易平台关闭此项业务,则退还3i质押的bitCNY。
初期不进行一定投入是没办法开展业务的,3i应该适当合理运用自己持有的bts以及btc

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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2014, 11:07:47 AM »
应该在中心化交易所里开通,BTS/Bitusd 和bitusd/usd 的期货交易对,我反倒认为bitusd和usd不一定要1:1
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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 11:16:23 AM »
企业承兑有风险,可分摊到个人,就像时代的充值代理。只有在bitcny总量可控制的情况下承兑才无风险

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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 12:29:51 PM »
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设定 bitcny 发行的最大值和最小值,由delegate喂给系统
我感觉delegate是不是承担了太多东西?
不要干预太多,市场自然会找到自己的路。
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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 01:16:02 PM »
供求应该由市场来定,给得条条框框越多,越觉得是对系统的不自信。
如果系统有缺陷,社区应该广泛讨论拿出更好的解决办法,如果没有缺陷,只是流通量小的问题,那社区就应该想办法解决流通问题。
社区应该是所有社区里的人,而不只是3i。
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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 01:38:37 PM »
供求应该由市场来定,给得条条框框越多,越觉得是对系统的不自信。
如果系统有缺陷,社区应该广泛讨论拿出更好的解决办法,如果没有缺陷,只是流通量小的问题,那社区就应该想办法解决流通问题。
社区应该是所有社区里的人,而不只是3i。
不是对系统不自信,是对法律风险不自信,如果是完全的自由市场,有合法的法币通道,当前的系统我也有办法做成实时锚定。

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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 01:47:47 AM »
最后一句话,这仅仅是个实验。目前没看出持有bitA有任何优势。如果限定某一种资产的发行量就和锚定的初衷相违背。关于锚定我已经看到失败的苗头了,也许咕噜早就看出来了,提出做市商来做市。老实说目前这种锚定,还不如直接一个大公司持有全部bts 然后自己做市,对bitA全额承兑。更好推广。然后bitA做到了真正的去中心化。就是瑞波加抵押锚定模式更好。

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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 02:00:33 AM »
这里的大公司也可以是一个传销经验丰富的团伙,谁要是认识搞传销的介绍来认识。交软妹币1:1兑换bitCNY 要想获得bts只有通过卖出bitCNY ,这样就可以做到流入了多少人民币就发行多少bitCNY 至于玩家在这个区中心化的交易所赚了多少,和得到了多少利息都可以得到全额兑付。

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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 03:36:34 AM »
这个建议看起来无懈可击。不过更重要的是,bitcny能不能找到应用需求呢? 跟BTC一样,比如充值,购物等等。
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Re: Proposol:The controlled enhancement for PEG 达到锚定的最后一层纸
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 03:55:41 AM »
如果是站在BTS公司的层面上来看待,任何有益的改变都是可以做的,不过站在去中心化的角度来看,确实有些过度的干预,像这种限制的决策应该还是要通过社区多数人表决通过在实施会比较好,如果让3I单方面实施,先不讨论成功与否,给3I的权限和压力也会随之增大。
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