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What IM would you use?

Skype
13 (24.5%)
Mail
10 (18.9%)
IRC
13 (24.5%)
Jitsi
2 (3.8%)
Slack
6 (11.3%)
Tox
2 (3.8%)
XMPP
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Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« on: November 26, 2014, 06:57:52 AM »

I think it would be wise if we have real-time chat with people maintaining delegates and/or tools for delegates.
This will help for faster issue identification and resolution.
I suggest we crate a skype group for anyone interested.
PM me your skype IDs and I'll create such group and add you into it.

PS: If you believe another messenger should be used -> state it here.

EDIT1: Skype group: http://skype/?chat&blob=s7FK3ZkYII8DujtoAK6x7aTaeUTLgBMEWpeFAD0aRgPq6LKo2cJcynSH_xoV9V9xRd2pY_xjdv_rh88
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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2014, 06:58:58 AM »
#bitshares-delegates on freenode irc?

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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2014, 07:31:06 AM »
#bitshares-delegates on freenode irc?

I see only 1 person there.
Skype can deliver messages even if you are currently offline.

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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 07:58:46 AM »
#bitshares-delegates on freenode irc?
yep .. I registered that one and also have the bribble bot in it ..
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/IRC
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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 07:59:33 AM »
#bitshares-delegates on freenode irc?

I see only 1 person there.
Skype can deliver messages even if you are currently offline.
Freenode has a service called "MemoServ" .. but you are right .. maybe a skype group would also make sense .. although I do not like skype much .. to be honest
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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 08:57:12 AM »
#bitshares-delegates on freenode irc?

I see only 1 person there.
Skype can deliver messages even if you are currently offline.
Freenode has a service called "MemoServ" .. but you are right .. maybe a skype group would also make sense .. although I do not like skype much .. to be honest

What do you suggest as an alternative ?

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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 09:41:13 AM »
messages are stored in:
+mail
+xmpp
+bitmessage (~3 days storage afaik)
+tox

real time:
+irc
+tox
+irc

Not sure what fits best ..

What I don't like with skype is that it is closed-source, managed by MS and has NSA backdoors (wild guess) :)
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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2014, 11:25:41 AM »
messages are stored in:
+mail
+xmpp
+bitmessage (~3 days storage afaik)
+tox

real time:
+irc
+tox
+irc

Not sure what fits best ..

What I don't like with skype is that it is closed-source, managed by MS and has NSA backdoors (wild guess) :)

Its even easier to spy on irc. I don't think anything that would be discussed there should be confidential or possibly incriminating. Well, I don't care about the actual software as long as it has:

Majority of delegates agree on using it.
Realtime communication.
Chat logs.
Mobile version.

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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 11:35:06 AM »
I'd like to have an alternative to Skype as well but for different reasons.

First one is the fact that MS put hugely deceptive ads in the Skype android app that pretend to be actual messages from a contact. The fact that the option to disable these ads doesn't work just makes thing even worse!

Secondly I just dislike how they handle contact names and actual skype handles, I can never tell which is which and am unable to say for sure what my actual username is..

Whatsapp does group messages really well and is way ahead of Skype UI wise, but it's linked to your actual phone number which isn't great, something like whatsapp with the possibility of just creating an anonymous account would be great.
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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 12:03:58 PM »
I could setup a chat logger into the bribble bot and log everything said in #bitshares-delegate onto a webpage ..
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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 12:37:47 PM »
Surely email is the lowest common denominator for this kind of thing?
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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2014, 02:40:18 PM »
I'm not a big fan a skype either.

What about Jitsi?

open source and all that jazz.
https://jitsi.org/Main/Download
http://prism-break.org/en/projects/jitsi/

Though i don't expect everyone to change for me. 

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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2014, 02:42:02 PM »
I'm open for whatever you folks decide. What about slack?

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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2014, 03:23:40 PM »
email could work but it is not realtime (read IM).
Jitsi is viable option.
slack has much more functionality than IM but could be used.

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Re: Technical Delegates Real Time Chat
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2014, 07:11:14 PM »
I'm open for whatever you folks decide. What about slack?

As long as anybody else is on slack, I'd use it too. Already have it going 24/7.

The downsides are that it's closed/proprietary and requires user administration (weak central point of failure).

Skype is right out for me as it isn't secure, may contain backdoors (MSFT/NSA) and I don't use it for anything else anymore.

 

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