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Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« on: December 02, 2014, 02:47:16 AM »

Interesting that they use the bitgold nomenclature...


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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 03:01:03 AM »
Yeah, they claim to have a trademark on it too, which they don't.
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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 03:16:22 AM »

Yeah, they claim to have a trademark on it too, which they don't.
So we have that trademark?
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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 03:19:42 AM »

Yeah, they claim to have a trademark on it too, which they don't.
So we have that trademark?

nope.
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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2014, 03:29:53 AM »

Yeah, they claim to have a trademark on it too, which they don't.
So we have that trademark?

nope.

But Halsey Minor, founder of Bitreserve, is extremely litigious. Good thing you can't sue a blockchain!   ;D

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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 03:37:17 AM »
They're a centralised service right? They have the majority of their funds stored in regular banks and audited?

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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2014, 03:49:25 AM »

Yeah, they claim to have a trademark on it too, which they don't.
So we have that trademark?

nope.

The US Trademark office has taken the position that you can't trademark Bitcoin or BitShares because they are "too descriptive".  (I'm not making this up.)

By that precedent then, they presumably haven't/won't grant trademarks to BitGold, BitSilver, or BitVegimite either.
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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2014, 03:59:49 AM »

Yeah, they claim to have a trademark on it too, which they don't.
So we have that trademark?

nope.

The US Trademark office has taken the position that you can't trademark Bitcoin or BitShares because they are "too descriptive".  (I'm not making this up.)

By that precedent then, they presumably haven't/won't grant trademarks to BitGold, BitSilver, or BitVegimite either.

You can still trademark it in the EU and other countries like Mt. Gox did with "bitcoin"

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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2014, 04:09:13 AM »
I guess it will come down to who bootstraps it first. People can call themselves Bitcoin, it's just the market won't accept it, if they're not 'Bitcoin' as viewed by the market.

The fact that they're centralised is great, we'll have the consensus of the market imo. 'BitGold' implies you live on a decentralised blockchain, their brand will be seen as disingenuous, false advertising that will potentially backfire on them as will the Bitreserve brand in general.

'Bitreserve - where you funds are as safe as a fully audited Cyprus Bank account.'

Still you want to claim ownership of your brand in the eyes of the market as soon as possible.

Suggestions

- A WhatisBitGold site in the same vein as WhatisBitUSD

- Get BitGold up to a decent CAP if we can. Now that our assets are on the main page of CMC everyone will see our BitGold if it's up the list* (If BitGold is in the top 30 for the next few months it will be harder for another 'BitGold' to come along.)

* Maximum response might be a 1-3 month BitGold  promotion with additional interest funded by 100% delegates.

(Other: Our website should be selling the blockchain and decentralisation more, that's our USP.)
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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2014, 05:40:42 AM »

- A WhatisBitGold site in the same vein as WhatisBitUSD

Can someone go register this asap?
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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2014, 06:56:52 AM »

- A WhatisBitGold site in the same vein as WhatisBitUSD

Can someone go register this asap?
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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2014, 08:03:39 AM »
They are claiming they have the Trademark here, with a list of others, some Phillipine related:
https://bitreserve.org/en/about-us/trademark-notice

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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 09:22:01 AM »

Yeah, they claim to have a trademark on it too, which they don't.
So we have that trademark?

nope.

The US Trademark office has taken the position that you can't trademark Bitcoin or BitShares because they are "too descriptive".  (I'm not making this up.)

By that precedent then, they presumably haven't/won't grant trademarks to BitGold, BitSilver, or BitVegimite either.

You can still trademark it in the EU and other countries like Mt. Gox did with "bitcoin"

should we consider to register bitGOLD or BitShares as Trademark in europe if possible, shouldn't we!?
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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 09:55:49 AM »
ah thats old fashioned shark style to steal someones idea and to profit on first move, but oldschools dont know that new generation is not gonna fight with copycats, we are the community, and have our own right to give names whatever we like to our money
if we start to dig into trademark war it will bury project because all funds will be spent on lawyers, accountants, counsels etc
« Last Edit: December 02, 2014, 09:57:48 AM by Crossover »

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Re: Bitgold at Bitreserve.org
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2014, 01:25:14 PM »
ah thats old fashioned shark style to steal someones idea and to profit on first move, but oldschools dont know that new generation is not gonna fight with copycats, we are the community, and have our own right to give names whatever we like to our money
if we start to dig into trademark war it will bury project because all funds will be spent on lawyers, accountants, counsels etc

Anyway, I would like to see how a centralized entity can sue a blockchain.
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