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Offline Rune

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First of all I don't see all the drama that's coming out now as a reason to be bearish on BTS. Bitshares is still on track to be the best crypto product once it launches next year, and there is a huge pool of talented marketers preparing in nullstreet now, even if it turns out that the official marketing team had nothing all along. In fact I think many people will see it as a bull sign if the marketing can finally start over and get fixed.

The violent reaction were seeing against the marketing team now is a result of months of pent up frustration. This time it's not going to blow over by itself, it will continue until the community has gotten its minimum requirement: transparency.

I'd like to propose that the community appoints one of the community marketers from nullstreet to do a full "audit", so that we can finally get answers to the long standing questions that have continuously been ignored:

How much has the marketing team been paid so far, counting both bonuses and salary? (Exact numbers)

What's the bonus system in place for Brian? (Exact numbers, exact result metrics, no vague answers)

What has Brian and murderistics marketing and business development actions been so far (no vague answers, we want specific steps taken and specific deals or results)

What plans do Brian and murderistic have for the next 6 months? (These plans do not have to be made public, but the auditor has to see EVERYTHING and pass his opinion on to the community)

Is there anything in the works for fixing the website (currently a wordpress theme)?

The community has clearly had enough of the inherently contradictory secret keeping of what is supposed to be the marketing team for a DAC. We're so insanely tired of vague promises I can hardly put it into words. It's time finally treat stakeholders as owners and give them the straight answers they deserve. Once these answers are put forth to the community, the community can decide if the plans for the remaining marketing AGS funds should be changed (options could include putting them into transparent multisig or burning them since delegates now fulfill the role of funding anyway).

If we act now to finally get transparency in our marketing effort, we can still have plenty of time to prepare a huge marketing push for when the full node and mobile wallets are ready, in a way that is transparent (forced by delegate funding) and that the community will be satisfied with (because it will be done by community members).

IMO the most obvious person to do an audit would be methodX, considering he is the one who finally got the community marketing effort going in the first place, and is himself a marketing professional.

Offline onceuponatime

^^ This would be very cleansing of the atmosphere and constitute a consolidation of energy for a big push forward.

charleshoskinson

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I'd be happy to audit the marketing team.

Offline onceuponatime

I'd be happy to audit the marketing team.

I would be very happy if you did provided you were given full access.

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Offline nomoreheroes7

This is absolutely needed.  +5% x 1,000,000.

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Let's do it.

Offline GaltReport

Audit a good idea.   See if they concur with BM's assessment.  However, auditors are usually independet and vetted for conflicts of interest.  Methodx may stand to benefit from a harsh assessment...not sure about Charles as I came here after he left already.

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If you're going to host a proper audit, then I'd suggest the following:

  • Select an odd number of auditors from the community who do not have a direct connection to the current marketing team
  • Provide the auditors with unrestricted access to all relevant emails, skype logs, financial records, and paperwork pertaining to the subjects being audited
  • Draft and sign a privacy and disclosure agreement for the auditors
  • Solicit from the community a list of concerns and questions they want addressed
  • Have the auditors draft a report containing at least the following sections:
  • A monthly timeline of actions taken by the marketing team
  • A financial summary and timeline of funds spent by and for marketing alongside supporting comments from the marketing team
  • Summarize the marketing strategy(ies) pursued and how success was to be judged
  • List the data sources marketing curated to measure effectiveness of their efforts
  • Recommendations from the Auditors
  • The final report should be publicly released and available to the entire community for review and comments. The marketing team should also have the freedom to first review the report prior to release in order to prepare a response to the findings.

That's off the top of my head. Probably more to cover.

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I'd be happy to audit the marketing team.

 +5% I'd vote for Methodx or Hopkinson (or both) to do the audit.   
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Audit a good idea.   See if they concur with BM's assessment.  However, auditors are usually independet and vetted for conflicts of interest.  Methodx may stand to benefit from a harsh assessment...not sure about Charles as I came here after he left already.

 +5% I also hate accounting. I can give a competent cost analysis on his marketing expenditures though.

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+5% I also hate accounting. I can give a competent cost analysis on his marketing expenditures though.

The guy to handle the accounting would be Dr. Charles Evans.

Offline bobmaloney

This would be the perfect time to attempt to bring Andreas onto the Bitshares team by offering him a purposeful delegate position.


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This would be the perfect time to attempt to bring Andreas onto the Bitshares team and offering him a purposeful delegate position.


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Well how much do you guys want to pay? Sky is the limit if the budget matches lol.

Offline GaltReport

If you're going to host a proper audit, then I'd suggest the following:

  • Select an odd number of auditors from the community who do not have a direct connection to the current marketing team
  • Provide the auditors with unrestricted access to all relevant emails, skype logs, financial records, and paperwork pertaining to the subjects being audited
  • Draft and sign a privacy and disclosure agreement for the auditors
  • Solicit from the community a list of concerns and questions they want addressed
  • Have the auditors draft a report containing at least the following sections:
  • A monthly timeline of actions taken by the marketing team
  • A financial summary and timeline of funds spent by and for marketing alongside supporting comments from the marketing team
  • Summarize the marketing strategy(ies) pursued and how success was to be judged
  • List the data sources marketing curated to measure effectiveness of their efforts
  • Recommendations from the Auditors
  • The final report should be publicly released and available to the entire community for review and comments. The marketing team should also have the freedom to first review the report prior to release in order to prepare a response to the findings.

That's off the top of my head. Probably more to cover.

Good Plan.

 

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