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Offline clayop

Wow, is Devshares ready?
« on: December 19, 2014, 08:42:47 PM »

https://github.com/BitShares/bitshares/releases/tag/v0.4.28-dev1

I'm not sure whether it is end-user version. But... Wow!
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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2014, 09:32:44 PM »
we're on block 950 =)
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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2014, 09:33:03 PM »
Really Nice. Is a snapshot date already announced?

Offline bytemaster

Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2014, 09:34:00 PM »
Really Nice. Is a snapshot date already announced?

It used Dec 14th, same as Sparkle and PTS.
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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2014, 09:45:51 PM »
Sorry to ask that but what exactly is devshares again? If I remember correctly these will be used to test things out.
Do these have a value?
How do we claim them?
How do we trade them?

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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2014, 09:51:02 PM »
Awesome!
Will you provide binaries?
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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2014, 09:53:39 PM »
It used Dec 14th, same as Sparkle and PTS.

Which chains were share dropped on for this again?
Was it all of BTS, PTS and AGS?
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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2014, 10:05:07 PM »
Never mind...I just read BM's blog explaining devs shares and answered all my questions  :)

http://bytemaster.github.io/update/2014/12/19/The-Value-of-DevShares.html

Only thing is how to claim them, what wallet we download and when we can start trading them but I guess the relevant info will follow whenever things are ready...

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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2014, 10:42:05 PM »
http://bytemaster.github.io/update/2014/12/19/The-Value-of-DevShares.html

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I feel this kind of disclaimer is necessary to encourage exchanges to participate in our development network without fear of any liability. Some people will have a hard time managing their expectations, but it will be up to the community to remind them of the social consensus on the DevShares chain that there are no scams, “theft” is legitimate, and trust is a gamble.

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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2014, 11:02:04 PM »
The blog answered my questions too.  Equal split BTS, PTS, and AGS.
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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2014, 11:09:26 PM »
Does this mean, we have to wait for an exchange to enlist DevShares before markets can be openend? I guess DevShares will be dependent on price feeds to.

Or will delegates have the oppurtunity to come up with their own prices until then?
This would make DevShares an interesting trading experience

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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2014, 11:35:05 PM »
Does this mean, we have to wait for an exchange to enlist DevShares before markets can be openend? I guess DevShares will be dependent on price feeds to.

Or will delegates have the oppurtunity to come up with their own prices until then?
This would make DevShares an interesting trading experience

I think that would be really fun actually. If delegates have been elected and are ready to publish price feeds but the exchanges haven't added DVS yet, why not just have all the delegates agree to publish some arbitrary price feed (say 300 DVS/USD which would correspond to a $10,000,000 market cap). Then we could allow short sellers choose any price greater than that (in DVS/USD) to short sell DevUSD. If some people pick a price of DVS (in USD) that is too high (or low in DVS/USD price), then when the true price feeds come in they would end up being margin called and also may not have enough collateral to back the DevUSD debt. This would be a great test of what happens during a black swan event and how the network can recover from it over time :). Also, we would see how good the internal DevShares exchange is at price discovery. If things work out well, the starting price on exchanges like BTER and BTC38 should be very close to the price on the DevShares DevUSD/DVS exchange.

By the way, no one has bothered registering any accounts on the blockchain yet? Is the v0.4.28-dev1 release for DevShares ready to be used?
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Re: Wow, is Devshares ready?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2014, 11:59:11 PM »
Given that it will be much, much easier to manipulate the price of DevShares than BTS, we might be able to test the effects of black swan events on bitAssets.  For example, dump a ton of devshares and crash the price by 90% in a minute.  See what happens to the asset markets in devshares!

This would be useful for helping to come up with defenses against BTS suffering these same attacks and manipulations.
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