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We could all teach something.
« on: December 13, 2013, 12:37:19 AM »

Ok, let me take a crack at this,

What if we had a DAC that allowed people to offer to teach, online and/or in their community, and provided easy ways to crowd fund classes and maintain reputations (maybe through keyhotee). I'm talking anything from a college professor deciding to ditch the antiquated education system and go lecture to a crowd indie style, to a guitar teacher doing one on one lessons to make some cash. Really if anyone is deemed proficient in something by the community they could offer to pass on their skills either for free or for profit. Basically a way for people to opt out of the current system where you need to first be admitted, and you are told what to learn, then get certain certificates. Sounds like the most straight forward and logical way to spread knowledge and reeducate the workforce during times of structural unemployment. Also a great way for people to make extra money while creating value for everyone. In the end we all benefit from a well educated society, and removing the barriers to that are a good thing. Also if you can develop a skill that people find valuable, and you can convey that skill in a way that creates value for society, you can now be back in the workforce, but maybe more of a grass root's, decentralized workforce.
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Re: We could all teach something.
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2013, 01:03:52 AM »
This would be a powerful DAC, that could have huge potential if done right. You should have feedback from people who have taken classes with various teachers, that way people can see how good they are at their skills. One idea which has been central to Bitcoin is the idea that the system is trustworthy because you don't have to trust any individual, just the whole system. Here, you don't have that, since you have to trust the teacher. However, if you were able to have feedback and references accessible to everyone, then you could spread the trust out a bit more.
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Re: We could all teach something.
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2013, 01:36:50 AM »
This would be a powerful DAC, that could have huge potential if done right. You should have feedback from people who have taken classes with various teachers, that way people can see how good they are at their skills. One idea which has been central to Bitcoin is the idea that the system is trustworthy because you don't have to trust any individual, just the whole system. Here, you don't have that, since you have to trust the teacher. However, if you were able to have feedback and references accessible to everyone, then you could spread the trust out a bit more.

Yeah totally. The community should be able to comment on and rate the teachers, people should be able to judge the rater's rating's based on their keyhotee identity as well to limit sock puppets and those up to no good. As people start to form communities, be it local or online, they could start to organize into loosely formed schools with parameters and funding laid out by the community in code. People could collectively express demand for what they wanted to learn. Education could become this liquid thing that could adapts to our needs. People could be paid based on their value to the community. Finally teachers could be paid what they are worth.
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Re: We could all teach something.
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2013, 01:53:34 AM »
This would be a powerful DAC, that could have huge potential if done right. You should have feedback from people who have taken classes with various teachers, that way people can see how good they are at their skills. One idea which has been central to Bitcoin is the idea that the system is trustworthy because you don't have to trust any individual, just the whole system. Here, you don't have that, since you have to trust the teacher. However, if you were able to have feedback and references accessible to everyone, then you could spread the trust out a bit more.

Yeah totally. The community should be able to comment on and rate the teachers, people should be able to judge the rater's rating's based on their keyhotee identity as well to limit sock puppets and those up to no good. As people start to form communities, be it local or online, they could start to organize into loosely formed schools with parameters and funding laid out by the community in code. People could collectively express demand for what they wanted to learn. Education could become this liquid thing that could adapts to our needs. People could be paid based on their value to the community. Finally teachers could be paid what they are worth.

I agree with the part about payment, teachers need a fair salary, not what a town can afford to pay them. But Keyhotee IDs are only useful for avoiding sock puppets, not determining the quality of a teacher. They only thing a Keyhotee reputation shows is computing time spent on a certain ID, nothing more.
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Re: We could all teach something.
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2013, 02:30:36 AM »
Sure but you can tie real world identities to Keyhotee identities. Plus the student could decide who they trust to evaluate the educators. For instance you could value the opinions of your Keyhotee contact list, or those who have identified with a certain geographical area. Or maybe the opinions of the educators peers in the system. Or a mixture of the three factors, why not! I'm sure if something like this took off people would rely heavily on social media and promotion websites.
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Re: We could all teach something.
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2013, 03:56:39 AM »
This would be a powerful DAC, that could have huge potential if done right. You should have feedback from people who have taken classes with various teachers, that way people can see how good they are at their skills. One idea which has been central to Bitcoin is the idea that the system is trustworthy because you don't have to trust any individual, just the whole system. Here, you don't have that, since you have to trust the teacher. However, if you were able to have feedback and references accessible to everyone, then you could spread the trust out a bit more.

Yeah totally. The community should be able to comment on and rate the teachers, people should be able to judge the rater's rating's based on their keyhotee identity as well to limit sock puppets and those up to no good. As people start to form communities, be it local or online, they could start to organize into loosely formed schools with parameters and funding laid out by the community in code. People could collectively express demand for what they wanted to learn. Education could become this liquid thing that could adapts to our needs. People could be paid based on their value to the community. Finally teachers could be paid what they are worth.

I agree with the part about payment, teachers need a fair salary, not what a town can afford to pay them. But Keyhotee IDs are only useful for avoiding sock puppets, not determining the quality of a teacher. They only thing a Keyhotee reputation shows is computing time spent on a certain ID, nothing more.

This is true...  for now!  Planning for the availability of a more robust reputation management system is still a valid concept. :)
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Re: We could all teach something.
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2013, 04:09:27 AM »
The question is would people use the DAC or would they just post ad's for their lectures and yoga classes on message boards and accept crypto currency. Could there maybe be a financial incentive to using the DAC? Something that works out for all parties? Would this be better as a non profit DAC, just a way to structure an old concept to make it easier?

Could Memorycoin 2.0 fit into this in any way with it's grant proposal system?
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Re: We could all teach something.
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2013, 04:40:36 AM »
The question is would people use the DAC or would they just post ad's for their lectures and yoga classes on message boards and accept crypto currency. Could there maybe be a financial incentive to using the DAC? Something that works out for all parties? Would this be better as a non profit DAC, just a way to structure an old concept to make it easier?

Could Memorycoin 2.0 fit into this in any way with it's grant proposal system?

One question we always need to ask is, would a DAC implementation add value?

DAC's best competitive edge is in applications where there is a trust issue with centralized human-run companies.  (Or a vulnerability to coercion in hostile jurisdictions.) 


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Re: We could all teach something.
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2013, 04:24:37 AM »
May be just a cryptocoin with an integrated chat system and you can rent chat time / words in cryptos.
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