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Offline mint chocolate chip

Account 'bter' please return funds
« on: January 21, 2015, 06:21:36 PM »

My brother-in-law who I got to invest in BitShares AGS/PTS back in March had all his bitshares in his wallet, on January 15 he made a terrible mistake and transferred all of his bitshares to 'bter' instead of 'btercom' when trying to send his funds to the BTER exchange.

I hope that the owner of the username 'bter' has it within his or her heart to return the funds back to the account from which they came.

FROM tvo
MEMO bter651141m165612

635,703.00

Jan 15, 2015 at 9:59:32 AM PST

Thank you.

Offline onceuponatime

Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2015, 06:33:19 PM »
I did the same thing.

Chances are very slim he has any heart at all.

Offline pseudoscops

Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2015, 06:41:02 PM »
Been there too. Luckily only about 50$ worth at the time. Heart felt sympathy goes out to you and your brother in law.

I really think it'd be great if the autofill in the wallet didn't make it so easy to make a mistake here. I think that is what happened to me - bter is the first account it suggests.

I think someone suggested a possible solution but I forget what it was now.

Offline robrigo

Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2015, 06:44:41 PM »
It would be good to explore excluding names from the suggestion list with a certain threshold of negative rep associated with them. Maybe make the reputation threshold relative based on the current average reputation.

So, if we all burned 1k BTS against "bter" they would no longer come up in the list because they're considered untrusted.

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Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2015, 07:02:34 PM »
I think autofill in general is a bad idea. As more and more users join, the blockchain will be cluttered with every single name imaginable anyway. Imagine autofill for gmail addresses, whatever you type in there will always be some guy who registered that combination of letters already.

Offline toast

Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2015, 07:03:30 PM »
Ouch. I'm in favor of putting a warning next to "bter" account and/or hiding stuff with negative rep from the autofill.
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Offline toast

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2015, 07:04:50 PM »
I think this might have been one of the "benevolent squatters", let me dig up that thread and see... don't get your hopes up
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Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2015, 07:09:35 PM »
Ouch. I'm in favor of putting a warning next to "bter" account and/or hiding stuff with negative rep from the autofill.

If you can remove names from the autofill with a negative rep someone could do an attack where they register a name so close to an exchange account that it shows up as number 2 on the autofill, then bombard the exchange with negative rep to remove it from the autofill and become the first suggestion for that name instead.

How about only having autofill for accounts you have sent money to before? So you have to verify the first time you send funds to an exchange, but then after that you're safe and can trust the autofill.

Offline mint chocolate chip

Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2015, 07:10:44 PM »
I think this might have been one of the "benevolent squatters", let me dig up that thread and see... don't get your hopes up
I don't think so, I pm'ed both of them and heard back from one so far, seems they got in after btercom was created.

Offline toast

Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2015, 07:14:34 PM »
Maybe we could have a bounty to investigate who owns this name. It's likely to be closely linked to whatever the real account name they used unless they tried hard to preserve anonymity.
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Offline vikram

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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2015, 07:27:11 PM »

Offline monsterer

Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2015, 07:27:43 PM »
I'm gonna get shot down for this... but this is yet another case where bitshares could benefit from having reversible transactions.

You could set a block target for when the transaction was spendable (like an uncleared balance in a bank), and up to that block the transaction could be reversed by the sender.
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Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2015, 07:34:00 PM »
i would keep autofill but just for accounts which user has apporved and added to favorites!
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Offline Pheonike

Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2015, 07:38:57 PM »

Maybe set a threshold where the user specifies an amount and the systems prompt for a verification click over that amount.

ex. "This is your first time sending to this name, are you sure it this is the correct name?"


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Re: Account 'bter' please return funds
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2015, 07:39:45 PM »
I'm gonna get shot down for this... but this is yet another case where bitshares could benefit from having reversible transactions.

You could set a block target for when the transaction was spendable (like an uncleared balance in a bank), and up to that block the transaction could be reversed by the sender.

I think this is a really good idea +5%. By having a pending transaction feature, the real Bter could confirm on the deposit page that he has an incoming deposit. Users would expect to see this notice when they send to Bter. If they dont see anything after a while it gives them a chance to realise that they made a mistake and thereby reverse the transaction.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 07:50:03 PM by speedy »

 

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