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Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« on: January 23, 2015, 05:00:11 PM »

As one of the 15 advisers of market.cn.group101, I just want to share an idea with the community that we are going to set up an "inspector group" to inspect all the high pay rate delegates.
 
According to today's dev hangout, BM also mentioned that it's very necessary for all high pay rate delegates to regularly report their progress or achievement. However, since developers are usually busy  doing their work, they sometimes miss the progress report.

Therefore, it will be very necessary if some person can remind all the delegates and summarize their progress  then report to the whole community in one single post, in order to make a comparison. The frequency should be biweekly or monthly. Then, all shareholders can easily decide whether they keep or remove their votes.

At the beginning, the inspector will be paid by the delegate income of market.cn.group101, considering that there are now only less than 30 high pay rate delegates and the workload is not very heavy. If in future, there are much more high payrate delegates, we may add the number of inspectors.

We will be recruiting inspectors from the whole community, and make sure they are from different countries.

Do you think it's a good idea? 
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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2015, 05:02:50 PM »
 +5% Great idea.

Other:

I hope 1 day BitShares has a delegate profile site.

- Where it easy to view the delegates, their projects and their progress.
- Where the site owner uses the project information to create a roadmap for BTS.
- Where trusted inspectors/delegates and individuals can give delegate reviews.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 05:14:50 PM by Empirical1.1 »

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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2015, 05:09:12 PM »
Good idea

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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2015, 05:12:11 PM »
It is very good idea  :)

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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2015, 05:15:20 PM »
So you would be like a ratings agency?  Seems like you would have a lot of power over who is elected and who isn't...

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015, 05:32:57 PM »
So you would be like a ratings agency?  Seems like you would have a lot of power over who is elected and who isn't...

If this agency is doing a bad job , then there should have a counter inspector group to question their job .

Everybody can be reviewed by everybody , even the reviewer itself .
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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 05:34:16 PM »
+5% Great idea.

Other:

I hope 1 day BitShares has a delegate profile site.

- Where it easy to view the delegates, their projects and their progress.
- Where the site owner uses the project information to create a roadmap for BTS.
- Where trusted inspectors/delegates and individuals can give delegate reviews.
+5% ... we just need someone to DO it ..
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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 05:36:48 PM »
So you would be like a ratings agency?  Seems like you would have a lot of power over who is elected and who isn't...

I don't think we need to rate any delegate, not to mention it is very hard to make a just criteria. We only provide information regarding different aspects. Shareholders have their own mind to make decisions.
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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 05:41:29 PM »
You say this is for inspectors.  What exactly will you be inspecting?  and what criteria will you be inspecting against?  It sounds like you are just going to be sending an email to each delegate to publish a progress report.  Why does this need a paid delegate position?

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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 05:47:47 PM »
You say this is for inspectors.  What exactly will you be inspecting?  and what criteria will you be inspecting against?  It sounds like you are just going to be sending an email to each delegate to publish a progress report.  Why does this need a paid delegate position?

read the post again , it's not proposing a paid delegate position .

The Chinese community service group delegate are paying for it at this stage .
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 06:01:30 PM »
I have been saying these for sometime - we need 2-3 paid members whose job is to properly vet and monitor the progress. Their job also involves checking on their credentials.

I suggested Fuzz set this up as he is at the heart of the community and ideally placed to co-ordinate the efforts.

Offline edilliam

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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 06:23:24 PM »
I've been thinking about a similar idea for a while now.

However: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2015, 06:27:18 PM »
It is a good and necessary idea. The details of reporting criteria are important.

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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2015, 06:29:10 PM »
I've been thinking about a similar idea for a while now.

However: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

every reader who reads their report are their reviewer . If reader find something wrong in their report , they can point it out .
As they always said , readers are the king .
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Re: Proposal---Delegates inspectors group
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2015, 06:45:57 PM »
The low pay delegates especially need vetting as they are placed under a lot less scrutiny than 100% delegates (for good reason, but if every 3% delegate was run by the same person it would be a completely centralised system).  All the 100% are either from the original team, have verified their uniqueness by talking on mumble, or are producing tangible work.  They still may need reminding to produce reports though.

The low pay delegates are more of a risk, 1 person could control dozens of low pay delegates at the moment.  We need all delegates vetted so we can at the very least know which delegates are being run by people who claim to be unique individuals.  Then more scrutiny can be placed on finding out if that is true or not.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2015, 06:50:24 PM by matt608 »

 

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