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Offline Troglodactyl

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New Decentralized Forum
« on: January 27, 2015, 04:37:25 AM »

We have an alternate decentralized forum available, all it needs is people:

retroshare://forum?name=BitSharestalk&id=c01bf375bbdf33c44b257457004d5363

It's hosted through RetroShare, see the sign-up thread here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=13419.0

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Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 04:42:36 AM »
Hmm... how exactly does RetroShares work? Documentation seems sparse. What makes it "decentralized"? What is the incentive to spend resources running nodes that enable the network? How is consumption of the network resources paid for by the users, if at all?

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Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 05:01:58 AM »
It's basically a mesh structure, and users host the content they care about.  Content that's valued will propagate, and junk will die off.

Each user has a PGP key pair, with peer discovery through distributed hash tables, like BitTorrent or Tox.  When you add a contact's public key, you form a connection with that user.

So each user is a node in the mesh, and files, forums, and email style messages are shared peer to peer.  The incentive to run a node is the use-value of the network at this point.  I'd like to see further partnership between RetroShare and BitShares eventually, but using it is a good place to start with that.

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Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 09:28:54 AM »
How do you make sure that old forum content doesn't fall off the edge and disappear?

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Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 01:31:30 PM »
How do you make sure that old forum content doesn't fall off the edge and disappear?

This blog post explains in more detail: https://retroshareteam.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/retroshare-forums/

As long as people are subscribed to content, their nodes will keep it and propagate it.  If everyone who has the old content shuts down their nodes or deletes it, the content will disappear.  So the system combines content curation with content storage and distribution.

Offline liondani

Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 03:18:58 PM »
very promising !!!
our new forum must be decentralized in the near future!
Why not ?   :)
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Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 03:39:46 PM »
How do you make sure that old forum content doesn't fall off the edge and disappear?

This blog post explains in more detail: https://retroshareteam.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/retroshare-forums/

As long as people are subscribed to content, their nodes will keep it and propagate it.  If everyone who has the old content shuts down their nodes or deletes it, the content will disappear.  So the system combines content curation with content storage and distribution.

Looks like an old project made new again thanks to the development of BitShares...  +5%

Hope to see this mature.
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Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 03:44:42 PM »
BitShares Retro would make a nice DAC.

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Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 03:46:09 PM »
How do you make sure that old forum content doesn't fall off the edge and disappear?

Anchor it? I think it is based on the premise of the cream rises to the top. If someone wanted to dig they could.. not unlike this forum.
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Re: New Decentralized Forum
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2015, 01:40:39 PM »
How do you make sure that old forum content doesn't fall off the edge and disappear?

This blog post explains in more detail: https://retroshareteam.wordpress.com/2013/01/19/retroshare-forums/

As long as people are subscribed to content, their nodes will keep it and propagate it.  If everyone who has the old content shuts down their nodes or deletes it, the content will disappear.  So the system combines content curation with content storage and distribution.

Looks like an old project made new again thanks to the development of BitShares...  +5%

Hope to see this mature.

Old, yes, but look at the revision history: http://sourceforge.net/p/retroshare/code/7882/log/?path=

Some of the same developers have been working on this project pretty consistently for a number of years now.  That's serious dedication, and if we convince them of the value of what we're doing I think both projects could benefit greatly.

So show them some love and appreciation, and let's see if we can get them in here.

very promising !!!
our new forum must be decentralized in the near future!
Why not ?   :)

The tradeoff is that the decentralized forum is less public, since access requires connecting directly to a community member.  Much of our discussion should remain more public so people can see how exciting this project is.  Having a decentralized backup doesn't hurt though, and some people have already expressed the desire for certain topics to be discussed more privately within a closer group.

 

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