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On the latest mumble bytemaster said they could implement a BitCNY/USD gaming app in the client like bingo

NO - Bad publicity is bad publicity right now because we are too small and we don't want to ruin our rep!
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YES - any publicity is good publicity right now because we are so small that we need to grow to be more fork resistant!
32 (29.4%)

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Gaming proposal , not accepted .
« on: February 02, 2015, 06:01:24 PM »

On the latest mumble, Bytemaster said that if BitShares was mentioned on too many mainstream media outlets or received too many new client downloads, then we could just remove the app it and keep the publicity.

BitShares Bingo would be to Bitshares what Solitaire is to Windows.  A favorite program of some. 

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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2015, 06:06:01 PM »
If anyone wants to drive BTS out of  China and lost the only major fiat portal we could ever have in at least 6 months and ruin all the hard working promotion effort with serious VC investors  , please do this . 

Otherwise , don't .

No gambling should be on BTS wallet , period .

I've already obtained opinion from experienced lawyers .

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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2015, 06:07:07 PM »
I think when it would make a good seperate mobile app when the lite client is ready. But definitely not integrated in the the main app.

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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2015, 06:08:50 PM »
If anyone wants to drive BTS out of  China and lost the only major fiat portal we could ever have in at least 6 months and ruin all the hard working promotion effort with serious VC investors  , please do this . 

Otherwise , don't .

No gambling should be on BTS wallet , period .

I've already obtained opinion from experienced lawyers .

Agreed..  what about the BTS blockchain?
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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2015, 06:11:34 PM »
I can't vote as the reason for "no" isn't the reason I would give. 

I don't think any new features are needed, just wallet stability/speed/easy use, including making it visually compatible with forex software/existing CFD platform formats. 

I wouldn't be able to play the bingo anyway because apparently my 2 year old mac-mini is too primitive to run BitShares properly.  I've been told its my hardware that's the problem, and that the light client solves the problem, but it doesn't because the light client wont support the exchange features for some time. 

There must be ways to improve it to reduce the hardware requirements.  I don't care about any other stuff being added.

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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2015, 06:13:51 PM »
If anyone wants to drive BTS out of  China and lost the only major fiat portal we could ever have in at least 6 months and ruin all the hard working promotion effort with serious VC investors  , please do this . 

Otherwise , don't .

No gambling should be on BTS wallet , period .

I've already obtained opinion from experienced lawyers .

Agreed..  what about the BTS blockchain?

you mean a different looking and branding wallet using the BTS chain ?
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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2015, 06:14:41 PM »
If anyone wants to drive BTS out of  China and lost the only major fiat portal we could ever have in at least 6 months and ruin all the hard working promotion effort with serious VC investors  , please do this . 

Otherwise , don't .

No gambling should be on BTS wallet , period .

I've already obtained opinion from experienced lawyers .

Agreed..  what about the BTS blockchain?

you mean a different looking and branding wallet using the BTS chain ?

Yes
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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2015, 06:16:54 PM »
I thought this was an excellent idea, and I believe the risk/reward ratio is highly in our favor. Bytemaster said that by the end of the year, anyone will be able to do this with smart contracts anyways, so the concerns about potential "regulatory crackdown" for gambling are a moot point. To turn down the opportunity to create some desperately needed utility for bitAssets at this point would be foolish.

As for user adoption, think about how many people play "bingo" instant lottery tickets. Hundreds of thousands? Millions? Imagine if they found out that they could play them online, using real money, to win real money. A lightweight wallet that you could fund and then play? And completely decentralized, so people from every country in the world would be driving the jackpots higher and higher. The upside potential is huge, considering the 80 hours it would take to implement. (bytemaster's estimate).


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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2015, 06:17:47 PM »
If anyone wants to drive BTS out of  China and lost the only major fiat portal we could ever have in at least 6 months and ruin all the hard working promotion effort with serious VC investors  , please do this . 

Otherwise , don't .

No gambling should be on BTS wallet , period .

I've already obtained opinion from experienced lawyers .

Agreed..  what about the BTS blockchain?

If the blockchain just had a function to produce a trustless random number, I don't think this implicates anything like gambling or what would be consider illegal anywhere.  Then a 3rd party could use this function to produce whatever they wanted.  though probably a little more complicated than just a random number, I'm guessing this is what your getting at?

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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2015, 06:20:15 PM »
I think anything like this needs to be done by a third party, not by anyone with 'official' ties to bitshares.
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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2015, 06:30:46 PM »
If anyone wants to drive BTS out of  China and lost the only major fiat portal we could ever have in at least 6 months and ruin all the hard working promotion effort with serious VC investors  , please do this . 

Otherwise , don't .

No gambling should be on BTS wallet , period .

I've already obtained opinion from experienced lawyers .

Agreed..  what about the BTS blockchain?

If the blockchain just had a function to produce a trustless random number, I don't think this implicates anything like gambling or what would be consider illegal anywhere.  Then a 3rd party could use this function to produce whatever they wanted.  though probably a little more complicated than just a random number, I'm guessing this is what your getting at?

It already produces the random number, the key is whether or not it "settles" the gamble and whether the profits from the gambling accrue to BTS.
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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2015, 06:48:12 PM »
Seeing as that BM realises BTS is about to fail and is putting it in as a desperate step, everybody should vote yes.

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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2015, 06:51:26 PM »
I thought this was an excellent idea, and I believe the risk/reward ratio is highly in our favor. Bytemaster said that by the end of the year, anyone will be able to do this with smart contracts anyways, so the concerns about potential "regulatory crackdown" for gambling are a moot point. To turn down the opportunity to create some desperately needed utility for bitAssets at this point would be foolish.

As for user adoption, think about how many people play "bingo" instant lottery tickets. Hundreds of thousands? Millions? Imagine if they found out that they could play them online, using real money, to win real money. A lightweight wallet that you could fund and then play? And completely decentralized, so people from every country in the world would be driving the jackpots higher and higher. The upside potential is huge, considering the 80 hours it would take to implement. (bytemaster's estimate).

Without a major fiat portal to support the price of BTS , do you really think BTA can be used by millions of users ?
Until the fully decentralized trading status achieved (tens of thousands of gateways around the world) , we shouldn't be gambling with the only fiat portal at hand , period .

BTA relies on BTS .
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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2015, 06:53:52 PM »
Seeing as that BM realises BTS is about to fail and is putting it in as a desperate step, everybody should vote yes.
Seeing as that BM realises BTS is about to fail and is putting it in as a desperate step, everybody should vote yes.

Why would you think this??
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Re: Who supports bytemaster's BitCNY decentralized gaming client app proposal?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2015, 06:59:06 PM »
Seeing as that BM realises BTS is about to fail and is putting it in as a desperate step, everybody should vote yes.

spoiler alert : BTS is gonna go viral in several months due to some major promotion effort in China , unless we do something to drag their feet . A crowd funding company already got millions of USD of VC to operate their operation on BTS . That's once in a life time opportunity for BTS .

As a matter of fact , all they want is no more surprises , a stable wallet and protocol ,  everything will work out eventually .
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