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cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« on: February 25, 2015, 07:52:58 PM »

For those who read this before cn-members remove this post,

This is getting way out of hand. Dozens of threads over the past few weeks have been deleted by 'cn-members', and is making others and myself feel like we are being silenced unjustly, even violated.

Micromanaging voices does not go unnoticed, and if your intention is to have better PR, there are better methods than following the footsteps of your own government. I should not have to worry about what I can or cannot say here, and if I'm getting a sock shoved in my mouth, don't expect me to not fight back.

Have you forgotten the principles of freedom and liberty that hold BitShares together?

I'm thinking of starting another forum if this keeps up.
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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2015, 08:03:24 PM »
What subjects was he censoring?

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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2015, 08:06:26 PM »
My intention was to help the communication between multiple parties in a more effective way without causing confusion .
It's 4:00 AM in my time and I'm still trying to do that .

It was never the intention of silence you .
If you ask around , you would know I help many people expressed their opinions .

Sorry to hurt your feeling . I must go to sleep now .
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2015, 08:09:25 PM »
The now infamous post by "Toast" and the "BitShares has PR" post were both removed from public visibility recently.

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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 08:26:03 PM »
That's the second reference to Toast's "infamous" post.  I'm pretty bummed I don't get to read it.

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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 10:29:26 PM »
Can anyone briefly summarize what Toast's post was about?
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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 11:05:24 PM »
That's the second reference to Toast's "infamous" post.  I'm pretty bummed I don't get to read it.

ditto, would looooove to read it if anyone snagged it.

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« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 11:11:47 PM »
Probably not supposed to talk about it ( ::)), but it was mainly the fact that toast was gonna allocate his pay to other delegates while he helps out with Music for a bit.

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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2015, 11:13:53 PM »
Let's do cn members and the bonds of western and chinese members a favor and not accuse each other.

The post on bm blog was a misunderstanding. CN members has a tough job of building communication bridges between western com. members and chinese members who suffer more from clumsy communication on BM side because of the language barrier.

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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2015, 11:17:56 PM »
Probably not supposed to talk about it ( ::)), but it was mainly the fact that toast was gonna allocate his pay to other delegates while he helps out with Music for a bit.
Here is some Random Discussion about it https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14379

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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2015, 11:36:02 PM »
Let's do cn members and the bonds of western and chinese members a favor and not accuse each other.

The post on bm blog was a misunderstanding. CN members has a tough job of building communication bridges between western com. members and chinese members who suffer
more from clumsy communication on BM side because of the language barrier.

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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 12:33:53 AM »
Let's do cn members and the bonds of western and chinese members a favor and not accuse each other.

The post on bm blog was a misunderstanding. CN members has a tough job of building communication bridges between western com. members and chinese members who suffer more from clumsy communication on BM side because of the language barrier.
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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 12:44:22 AM »
cn-members came on Mumble and we talked about all this. We agreed there needs to be a happy medium between massive censorship, and devs being careless with their words.

I proposed to him a very simple solution:

1. Statements, Proposals, blogs, and posts should be peer-reviewed by the dev team before publishing. Their collective social intelligence should be much greater than the sum of their parts, and sufficient for anything blatantly bad PR.

2. The finalized text should be given to a dedicated Chinese community member to translate, to post along-side the text simultaneously.

To this, cn-members told me that they asked for this exactly, many many times over the past year. He said that the problem has come down to habits, and that the dev team needs to be proactive in changing their habits.

Can a dev comment on the above proposal? Are you aware the Chinese has been asking for this? Is there any reason why this cannot be implemented into your communications?
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Re: cn-members is abusing his mod powers
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 01:08:51 AM »
Probably not supposed to talk about it ( ::)), but it was mainly the fact that toast was gonna allocate his pay to other delegates while he helps out with Music for a bit.
Here is some Random Discussion about it https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14379

thanks, now I get what this PR post was about.

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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 01:11:11 AM »
I can't think of a single time when keeping the public ignorant to truths they need to understand turns out well for anyone.  It doesn't matter what the intentions are...
This line of reasoning brings us to the paradigm when we excuse others from evolving to deal with the truth., adapt and empower us all, and gives credence to the idea that any single person is better qualified to dictate the circumstances with which others must live. ...

One can argue is for the greater good but who are they to decide for others?  Are we making the same mistakes as those who put us in our current paradigm?  Are we being too short sighted?

What do we get when we walk away from our principles out of fear that someone who took the easy road will win? 

Trust me...this isn't just a question I'm asking all of you. It's a question I'm asking myself first and foremost lately.  I don't have the answer but  I know what feels right and I know what got us here.
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