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Quote from: delulo on March 06, 2015, 06:57:33 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on March 05, 2015, 10:37:01 PM
We are preparing to address this topic within the next couple of days once we can get agreement from everyone.    We have been discussing this issue for a while internally.

I would say more, but would rather run things through the proper process.
+5% :)
The process is important. And it is a serious problem to decide 30m bts of market fee where to spend.

santaclause102

Quote from: bytemaster on March 05, 2015, 10:37:01 PM
We are preparing to address this topic within the next couple of days once we can get agreement from everyone.    We have been discussing this issue for a while internally.

I would say more, but would rather run things through the proper process.
+5% :)

vikram

Quote from: fuzzy on March 06, 2015, 06:19:09 AM
Adam Ernest has stated that he will be interested in having a hangout to chat with the community.  So hold your horses :)

Looks like it's been scheduled here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=14765.msg191390#msg191390

fuzzy

Adam Ernest has stated that he will be interested in having a hangout to chat with the community.  So hold your horses :)
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Quote from: tonyk2 on March 05, 2015, 10:12:19 PM
Quote from: Gentso1 on March 05, 2015, 09:57:45 PM
1. AK should show up and at least give a update. No one wants a Brian 2.0
I believe, AK is already updating us through the PR Spokesman guy - the gagmaster. I think that the fact that you cannot hear him is partially your fault.  :)
Just get used to the Spokesman signature PR move...called 'I have never and will never say a word."

Your right it would be insane to think their was some kind of middle ground.

Because I support PR means I think we should silence everyone, in fact I can't believe we have a forum. Also while we are at it any groups larger then 2 should request a permit from the head party office.

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eagleeye

#27
Give Rgcrypto 30 million shares and he will give us half a million users.

Here is his blog he is a delegate but needs more funding he recently may have found the magic formula.

https://rgcrypto.wordpress.com
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Ander

Quote from: speedy on March 05, 2015, 11:43:02 PM
My view has now progressed: those other DAC business ideas have been a huge distraction away from what is the most needed idea in crypto - trading without counterparty risk.

Yes, I agree.

They are good ideas for the future, when our core functionality is build and has more adoption than currently.  But they have only distracted us so far and caused controversy.


It was ideas about vote that got Bitshares off the rails in the first place with the whole november "merger" fiasco. 
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speedy

Thanks Ander.

What annoys me about this is that I asked questions ages ago about what the business model of vote is, and I dont remember ever getting any clear answers. To this day I still dont believe that blockchain voting services are going to take off.

When I first heard about these other DAC business ideas I thought they were nice ideas but probably wouldnt amount to anything. Thats why I didnt donate to post Feb 28 AGS. My view has now progressed: those other DAC business ideas have been a huge distraction away from what is the most needed idea in crypto - trading without counterparty risk.

If we had just focused on our core BitAssets technology and created the best trading interface around with margin trading and light wallets, we could be out-competing and taking away huge business from the likes of BitFinex, and now Kraken: https://www.kraken.com/img/kraken_preview.jpg

Instead we have diluted our focus into these other minor and peripheral markets, which have probably held back development of our core product by months, and has sucked up funds as this thread has shown.

Anyway the core developers are in gag mode now so I guess we will know even less.

carpet ride


Quote from: Ander on March 05, 2015, 11:18:29 PM

That said, we do need to see value for this quantity of funds.  I hope the dev team/vote team/chinese whales can come to a reasonable compromise.

Agree.  The current model is very poor for performance tracking and incentivizing performance.


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Quote from: speedy on March 05, 2015, 11:14:27 PM
Can someone explain what the 30 million shares refers to? Was that given to the vote team?
Yes.  (Specifically, their vote stake will vest 30M BTS over two years). 

Rollbacks are death for cryptocurrencies and we need to avoid that.
If some whales are demanding it, they should know better.

That said, we do need to see value for this quantity of funds.  I hope the dev team/vote team/chinese whales can come to a reasonable compromise.
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speedy

Can someone explain what the 30 million shares refers to? Was that given to the vote team?

zerosum

Quote from: hpenvy2 on March 05, 2015, 10:56:18 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on March 05, 2015, 10:37:01 PM
We are preparing to address this topic within the next couple of days once we can get agreement from everyone.    We have been discussing this issue for a while internally.

I would say more, but would rather run things through the proper process.

Interesting.

Meh.. just waiting for the gagmaster to give his nod (by regular  mail apparently) for a trivial announcement like:
'We have made a strategic decision to significantly increase the impact of our advertising dollars. To achieve that we have decided to significantly reduce any advertising expenditures until we have stable, powerful v.1.0 clients - web, lightweight and desktop ones. In the meantime we are working hard to do bla bla bla.'

cass

#20
For me it doesn't matter – i will continue with nullstreet gang!
Decentralize the BitShares marketing ...

Nullstreet is a good example on how to achieve this
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hpenvy2

Quote from: bytemaster on March 05, 2015, 10:37:01 PM
We are preparing to address this topic within the next couple of days once we can get agreement from everyone.    We have been discussing this issue for a while internally.

I would say more, but would rather run things through the proper process.

Interesting.

bytemaster

We are preparing to address this topic within the next couple of days once we can get agreement from everyone.    We have been discussing this issue for a while internally.

I would say more, but would rather run things through the proper process.
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zerosum

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Quote from: Gentso1 on March 05, 2015, 09:57:45 PM
1. AK should show up and at least give a update. No one wants a Brian 2.0
I believe, AK is already updating us through the PR Spokesman guy - the gagmaster. I think that the fact that you cannot hear him is partially your fault.  :)
Just get used to the Spokesman signature PR move...called 'I have never and will never say a word."

Gentso1

2 things

1. AK should show up and at least give a update. No one wants a Brian 2.0
2. If their is a roll back of any kind I am gone gone gone



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Ander

Quote from: abit on March 05, 2015, 08:00:55 AM
Quote from: NewMine on March 05, 2015, 06:19:18 AM
Don't worry there will be a hard fork deleting those 30 million shares soon. It's all part of The Chinese Whales plan. Get control of Dan, then roll back or delete via hard fork.

-insider source
We know you're always kidding.. but new comers don't know.

He actually does believe this, he isnt kidding.

(Of course. we regular forumers have no way of knowing whether or not its true). 
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abit

Quote from: NewMine on March 05, 2015, 06:19:18 AM
Don't worry there will be a hard fork deleting those 30 million shares soon. It's all part of The Chinese Whales plan. Get control of Dan, then roll back or delete via hard fork.

-insider source
We know you're always kidding.. but new comers don't know.
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NewMine

Don't worry there will be a hard fork deleting those 30 million shares soon. It's all part of The Chinese Whales plan. Get control of Dan, then roll back or delete via hard fork.

-insider source

Riverhead

Quote from: TurkeyLeg on March 04, 2015, 10:42:08 PM

Brian Page 2.0?

Heavy is the head that wears the marketing crown :).

fluxer555

Quote from: Carpet Ride on March 04, 2015, 11:53:07 PM

Quote from: mitao on March 04, 2015, 11:17:33 PM
He is busy selling.

We should have pitchbooks so everyone can sell.

Btw how are you in the know or was that facetious?




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I think he meant, he's busy dumping his shares...
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TurkeyLeg

Quote from: mitao on March 04, 2015, 11:17:33 PM
He is busy selling.

Who What Where When Why and How?

My boss wants me to sell all day long too, but if I don't login to salesforce and report back it's an issue.

carpet ride


Quote from: mitao on March 04, 2015, 11:17:33 PM
He is busy selling.

We should have pitchbooks so everyone can sell.

Btw how are you in the know or was that facetious?




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Quote from: bitsharesmarket on March 04, 2015, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on December 03, 2014, 12:30:01 AM
Fmv is the cornerstone of my marketing strategy.
Quote from: bytemaster on December 03, 2014, 02:01:32 AM
We have significant plans for it starting Q1 2015

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cass

Quote from: TurkeyLeg on March 04, 2015, 10:42:08 PM

Quote from: bitsharesmarket on March 04, 2015, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on December 03, 2014, 12:30:01 AM
Fmv is the cornerstone of my marketing strategy.
Quote from: bytemaster on December 03, 2014, 02:01:32 AM
We have significant plans for it starting Q1 2015

Referrer: follow-my-vote
Accounts: 6
http://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard

Last post by Adam Ernest: February 5.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=17361

# of tweets by https://twitter.com/followmyvote about BitShares since January 1 = 3

on Nullstreet's Slack:  Recent Activity "ak doesn't have any activity yet."

on Nullstreet's forum: 1 post from Adam in the past 3 weeks.

Brian Page 2.0?

Yes @adam: an update would be really appreciated!
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TurkeyLeg


Quote from: bitsharesmarket on March 04, 2015, 08:22:29 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on December 03, 2014, 12:30:01 AM
Fmv is the cornerstone of my marketing strategy.
Quote from: bytemaster on December 03, 2014, 02:01:32 AM
We have significant plans for it starting Q1 2015

Referrer: follow-my-vote
Accounts: 6
http://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard

Last post by Adam Ernest: February 5.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=17361

# of tweets by https://twitter.com/followmyvote about BitShares since January 1 = 3

on Nullstreet's Slack:  Recent Activity "ak doesn't have any activity yet."

on Nullstreet's forum: 1 post from Adam in the past 3 weeks.

Brian Page 2.0?

vlight

Just wait for the next big "marketing push"   :'(

mint chocolate chip

Quote from: bytemaster on December 03, 2014, 12:30:01 AM
Fmv is the cornerstone of my marketing strategy.
Quote from: bytemaster on December 03, 2014, 02:01:32 AM
We have significant plans for it starting Q1 2015

Referrer: follow-my-vote
Accounts: 6
http://faucet.bitshares.org/refscoreboard

Last post by Adam Ernest: February 5.
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=17361

# of tweets by https://twitter.com/followmyvote about BitShares since January 1 = 3

on Nullstreet's Slack:  Recent Activity "ak doesn't have any activity yet."

on Nullstreet's forum: 1 post from Adam in the past 3 weeks.
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