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how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« on: March 18, 2015, 01:58:58 AM »

i guess  now  you crate a new account  that is  NON TITAN
but how to  choose  create  a TITAN  or NON TITAN    is there some option?

and  how to  change  TITAN to  NON TITAN  &  chang NON TITAN to  TITAN?
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Re: how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2015, 03:49:40 AM »
GUI create new account that is  public_accoun   
consolo  create new account that is    ttitan_account

OMG
public accounts do not receive memos and all payments are made to the active key
&blockchain_get_account_public_balance  can show the balance




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>> help wallet_account_register

Usage:
wallet_account_register <account_name> <pay_from_account> [public_data] [delegate_pay_rate] [account_type]   Updates the data published about a given account
Updates the data published about a given account

Parameters:
  account_name (account_name, required): the account that will be updated
  pay_from_account (account_name, required): the account from which fees will be paid
  public_data (json_variant, optional, defaults to null): public data about the account
  delegate_pay_rate (uint8_t, optional, defaults to -1): -1 for non-delegates; otherwise the percent of delegate pay to accept per produced block
  account_type (string, optional, defaults to "titan_account"): titan_account | public_account - public accounts do not receive memos and all payments are made to the active key

Returns:
  transaction_record

aliases: register



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>> help blockchain_get_account_public_balance

Usage:
blockchain_get_account_public_balance <account_name>                                                  Get the account record for a given name
Get the account record for a given name

Parameters:
  account_name (account_name, required): the name of the account whose public address you want

Returns:
  account_balance_summary_type
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Re: how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2015, 04:10:52 AM »
OMG
public accounts do not receive memos and all payments are made to the active key
&blockchain_get_account_public_balance  can show the balance

Yup  :(

Although it seems wrong to me that public accounts do not receive memos. There is no reason this has to be the case (encrypted memos are doable with transfers to public accounts without requiring the public account to scan the blockchain). Can I get confirmation from devs on this?

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Re: how to change between TITAN &amp;NON TITAN?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2015, 06:51:43 AM »
I agree with arhag .. we need memos for public accounts too ... that way btc38 can proof solvency and let costumers tranfser funds to a NONTITAN account
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Re: how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2015, 08:36:33 AM »
  "meta_data": {
    "type": "titan_account",
    "data": ""
  },

meta_data can be update or not?
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Re: how to change between TITAN &amp;NON TITAN?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2015, 08:38:29 AM »
I agree with arhag .. we need memos for public accounts too ... that way btc38 can proof solvency and let costumers tranfser funds to a NONTITAN account
had updated the code let no-titan account can received memo ?
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Re: how to change between TITAN &amp;NON TITAN?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2015, 10:07:58 AM »
I agree with arhag .. we need memos for public accounts too ... that way btc38 can proof solvency and let costumers tranfser funds to a NONTITAN account
had updated the code let no-titan account can received memo ?

Public accounts can receive encrypted memos.  The wallets support this already.

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Re: how to change between TITAN &amp;NON TITAN?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2015, 11:21:03 AM »
Puh .. wouldnt have made any sense .. at least to me ..

So whats the motivation to write the contrary into the cmd drscription? Anyone?
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Re: how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2015, 01:52:46 PM »
can I change public account  to  TITAN account?
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Re: how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2015, 01:55:15 PM »
can I change public account  to  TITAN account?
not yet .. but afaik 0.8.0 will bring the feature to modify meta_public_data
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Re: how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2015, 03:47:41 PM »
So the default account type is TITAN, when created from the GUI, yes?

At least it's the default in the CLI:
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account_type (string, optional, defaults to "titan_account"):

but it seams that the web_wallet (GUI) uses public accounts as (fixed) default:
https://github.com/BitShares/web_wallet/blob/master/app/js/controllers/registration.coffee#L53
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Re: how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2015, 04:33:25 PM »
Ouch... :-[

Would you know how to confirm which account type it is, from the console?

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$   enable_raw

$    blockchain_get_account donations.xeroc
{
  "id": 34349,
  "name": "donations.xeroc",
  "public_data": {},
  "owner_key": "BTS5XPmkBSDXnUNLpojrDReqaZSA7ouqRtX9XutF4hbhfraLsPr71",
  "active_key_history": [[
      "2015-03-01T18:18:40",
      "BTS89U1u1kHrxHCUTfEZG5XixNsYy9cVeEyawnzC9dom5duUvULit"
    ]
  ],
  "registration_date": "2015-03-01T18:18:40",
  "last_update": "2015-03-01T18:18:40",
  "delegate_info": null,
  "meta_data": {
    "type": "public_account",
    "data": ""
  }

}


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Re: how to change between TITAN &NON TITAN?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2015, 04:53:34 PM »
Well, that confirms it.. unfortunately this is yet another example of outdated documention, as I am pretty sure about having done the necessary research and reading that TITAN would be there by default.


At this point I can no longer assume any documentation in our wiki is correct. This is cause for concern, since few amongst us actually have the time to go through the source code digging for how stuff works (and even fewer could actually do that).



Could someone knowledgeable on this topic explain:

- Whether my privacy has been completely compromised - ie, can anyone get the current balance and complete past history of my accounts

- Whether it is possible to convert the account to TITAN, and if yes, how to do so.

- The consequences of switching to TITAN at this point (ie, the privacy implications of doing so)


Thanks..

 

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