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User toast has moved over to the BTS MUSIC project
« on: April 17, 2015, 06:24:05 PM »

As per this thread and his confirmation (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15767.0.html), toast has moved over to the MUSIC/NOTES project.
 
His BTS Delegate is still collecting 100% payrate however, so please vote that Delegate down now:
Delegate:dev0.nikolai

 
This will free up those funds for BitShares.
Please and Thank You (and Thank You toast for your confirmation on this).
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Edit: toast also mentioned that he had a second Delegate here too, not sure which.
As an Ops guy, please don't shoot the messenger. There is no doubt that toast was invaluable to BTS. I think I've made that quite clear, but what I am saying is that I do not want funds wasted. That's all. I've seen some great suggestions in this thread RE how to handle future departures. Oh, and for the record, I will be investing heavily in the MUSIC/NOTES project as well :)
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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 06:39:27 PM »
How about this one as well...  dev-trial.misc.nikolai which is also 100% with 0 feeds.

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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 06:55:04 PM »

This new round of community is going to really turn BTS around.

Toast was the best asset BitShares had and I'd assume he still looks out for it.  A couple of 100% delegates will not make any noticeable difference financially, but if those funds were properly directed by Toast then perhaps the funds would have made a noticeable positive difference.

Given that Toast was the best asset of BitShares that is public facing, being all quick to remove all his remaining interest in the project is probably not in the interest of BitShares.  lol.
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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2015, 07:17:53 PM »
There should be a 72hr auto kick if delegate is not functioning properly.

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 07:23:00 PM »

This new round of community is going to really turn BTS around.

Toast was the best asset BitShares had and I'd assume he still looks out for it.  A couple of 100% delegates will not make any noticeable difference financially, but if those funds were properly directed by Toast then perhaps the funds would have made a noticeable positive difference.

Given that Toast was the best asset of BitShares that is public facing, being all quick to remove all his remaining interest in the project is probably not in the interest of BitShares.  lol.
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Plus as far as I know this funds are redirected to other severely underpaid core developers...

I can see a ton of other delegates that I will vote out before toast's, but hey if you disagree it is you vote....break your head and this project.
And good luck!

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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2015, 07:32:26 PM »

This new round of community is going to really turn BTS around.

Toast was the best asset BitShares had and I'd assume he still looks out for it.  A couple of 100% delegates will not make any noticeable difference financially, but if those funds were properly directed by Toast then perhaps the funds would have made a noticeable positive difference.

Given that Toast was the best asset of BitShares that is public facing, being all quick to remove all his remaining interest in the project is probably not in the interest of BitShares.  lol.
+5% +5%
Plus as far as I know this funds are redirected to other severely underpaid core developers...

I can see a ton of other delegates that I will vote out before toast's, but hey if you disagree it is you vote....break your head and this project.
And good luck!

Toast said himself that he was surprised he hasn't been down voted.  He even said he would turn off the delegate and miss blocks to expedite the process of being voted out.  He hasn't made any mention that his delegate funds were being redirected.

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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2015, 07:49:05 PM »
I will NOT vote him out if Toast is using that money to fund the other developers, especially at a time when the market cap is so low. We need these people to stick with it a bit longer.

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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2015, 07:49:49 PM »
He hasn't made any mention that his delegate funds were being redirected.

Actually I've repeatedly mentioned it and the fact that I keep having to do so is why I'm finally deciding it's not worth it. Maybe a solution could have been setting up a web page clarifying this I could link to from the delegate URL
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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2015, 07:49:57 PM »

This new round of community is going to really turn BTS around.

Toast was the best asset BitShares had and I'd assume he still looks out for it.  A couple of 100% delegates will not make any noticeable difference financially, but if those funds were properly directed by Toast then perhaps the funds would have made a noticeable positive difference.

Given that Toast was the best asset of BitShares that is public facing, being all quick to remove all his remaining interest in the project is probably not in the interest of BitShares.  lol.
+5% +5%
Plus as far as I know this funds are redirected to other severely underpaid core developers...

I can see a ton of other delegates that I will vote out before toast's, but hey if you disagree it is you vote....break your head and this project.
And good luck!

Toast said himself that he was surprised he hasn't been down voted.  He even said he would turn off the delegate and miss blocks to expedite the process of being voted out.  He hasn't made any mention that his delegate funds were being redirected.

I recall he did make mention of it somewhere. Now whether he'd been on top of divvying up the funds , I can not say. Regardless, I would be a bit surprised if he kept all the BTS. It would make him look bad, and it just isn't that much $$. He is probably a bit ambivalent about it and is just like whatever you guys want......

People here seem to have a hard time judging the scale of the problems that exist and what the actual problems are these days.

edit - After seeing Toast's last post, I am not very far off.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2015, 07:52:05 PM by gamey »
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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2015, 07:50:51 PM »

This new round of community is going to really turn BTS around.

Toast was the best asset BitShares had and I'd assume he still looks out for it.  A couple of 100% delegates will not make any noticeable difference financially, but if those funds were properly directed by Toast then perhaps the funds would have made a noticeable positive difference.

Given that Toast was the best asset of BitShares that is public facing, being all quick to remove all his remaining interest in the project is probably not in the interest of BitShares.  lol.
+5% +5%
Plus as far as I know this funds are redirected to other severely underpaid core developers...

I can see a ton of other delegates that I will vote out before toast's, but hey if you disagree it is you vote....break your head and this project.
And good luck!

Toast said himself that he was surprised he hasn't been down voted.  He even said he would turn off the delegate and miss blocks to expedite the process of being voted out.  He hasn't made any mention that his delegate funds were being redirected.

Yes, he did say he is sending the funds to other developers. But this is not the issue here, the issue is you and particularly kenCode are missing the point here.

I will NOT vote him out if Toast is using that money to fund the other developers, especially at a time when the market cap is so low. We need these people to stick with it a bit longer.
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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2015, 07:54:29 PM »
Yes, he did say he is sending the funds to other developers. But this is not the issue here, the issue is you and particularly kenCode are missing the point here.

Is this still true? I think that would stop the debate entirely if it could be confirmed.
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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2015, 08:02:59 PM »
IMO the fact that I haven't been voted out yet is troubling. Maybe I should just turn them off and allow lots of blocks to be missed? It'd save me $80/mo since I don't use that vps for anything else anymore...

I was just relaying what toast said in a different thread.  I'm all for him keeping the delegate running if he is giving it to other developers since it would be difficult to get an additional 100% delegate voted in.

And what point am I missing here?  Is it that you think this project will "break" if we vote out a delegate who isn't working on said project?  Personally I don't know what value is added by electing a delegate who doesn't contribute.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2015, 08:05:03 PM »

Could use this script to direct funds to a trusted account until you're voted out if you want a hands-free solution.

https://github.com/Riverhead/balance_keeper/blob/master/balance_keeper.py

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Re: PLEASE VOTE DOWN: User toast has moved to the MUSIC project
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2015, 09:46:19 PM »

Yes, he did say he is sending the funds to other developers. But this is not the issue here, the issue is you and particularly kenCode are missing the point here.


Right. The issue is overactive forum members who are wasting the developers' freaking time by making stupid suggestions. Relax. Take a deep breath. Let things develop. Those devs need every dime right now if we're going to get this product out. And they sure don't need to be wasting their time on here.

Offline liondani

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2015, 09:46:57 PM »
Just remember the time you wanted Vitalik as a delegate to do nothing but  prove to the crypto space he likes the bitshares concept...
well, toast did much more...

PS do you thing if toast is the reason to add some cool futures to the note-blockchain, bitshares will not copy-paste them?
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