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Offline mike623317

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« on: April 24, 2015, 11:57:26 PM »


Can you believe this nonsense. Terms & Conditions Update as of july..

“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

http://www.infowars.com/paypal-asserts-copyright-ownership-over-all-intellectual-property-of-its-users/

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Re: PayPal - Copyright to your content if you use them
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2015, 04:33:18 AM »
Surprised no one responded yet.  Goes to show you how large companies can stick whatever they want in their ToS, and people will just blindly accept them.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2010/04/15/online-shoppers-unknowingly-sold-souls/

(I know I'm quoting fox news, bad idea. But they're still right about what Gamestation did)

It was even mentioned in this documentary in 2013

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2084953/

So want to know what people do after learning about this problem? Absolutely nothing.  The world needs help.

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Re: PayPal - Copyright to your content if you use them
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2015, 10:13:56 AM »
What the fucking hell. Obviously, no more PayPal account for me.

But... a great news for crypto ! Somehow.
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Re: PayPal - Copyright to your content if you use them
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2015, 10:40:20 AM »
Haha this is so ridiculous.

Just imagine a meeting at paypal where someone is like "Hey, we should just get all intellectual property rights to pretty much everything that has to do with us." And everyone is like "Yep, yep that sounds good, let's do it. Wonder why no one had that idea earlier."

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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2015, 10:58:34 PM »

Can you believe this nonsense. Terms & Conditions Update as of july..

“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

http://www.infowars.com/paypal-asserts-copyright-ownership-over-all-intellectual-property-of-its-users/

AOL does that too. Never send your content over AOL.

By the way you may want to use a more professional source than infowars. Try http://www.RT.com instead.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2015, 11:00:29 PM by luckybit »
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2015, 11:23:29 PM »

Can you believe this nonsense. Terms & Conditions Update as of july..

“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

http://www.infowars.com/paypal-asserts-copyright-ownership-over-all-intellectual-property-of-its-users/

AOL does that too. Never send your content over AOL.

By the way you may want to use a more professional source than infowars. Try http://www.RT.com instead.

RT is just Russian gov propaganda. This is one place I disagree with you lucky...and there aren't many.  Infowars breaks ALOT of seriously nasty shit...even if alex hypes stuff a bit too much. But it seems most of the sheep only start moving based off fear (this is actually pretty much psych 101).  AT least he uses fear to get people questioning authority.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2015, 11:24:42 PM »
Haha this is so ridiculous.

Just imagine a meeting at paypal where someone is like "Hey, we should just get all intellectual property rights to pretty much everything that has to do with us." And everyone is like "Yep, yep that sounds good, let's do it. Wonder why no one had that idea earlier."

That is fine. Let's just vote out their delegate!  Oh wait....
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2015, 11:30:08 PM »

Can you believe this nonsense. Terms & Conditions Update as of july..

“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

http://www.infowars.com/paypal-asserts-copyright-ownership-over-all-intellectual-property-of-its-users/

AOL does that too. Never send your content over AOL.

By the way you may want to use a more professional source than infowars. Try http://www.RT.com instead.

RT is just Russian gov propaganda. This is one place I disagree with you lucky...and there aren't many.  Infowars breaks ALOT of seriously nasty shit...even if alex hypes stuff a bit too much. But it seems most of the sheep only start moving based off fear (this is actually pretty much psych 101).  AT least he uses fear to get people questioning authority.

It's all propaganda. That includes Alex Jones.

But you can choose the propaganda which you agree with rather than that which you disagree with.

If you're interested in knowing the truth then no one is going to spoon feed it to you. You have to investigate and find it for yourself. Anyone who offers to reveal the truth is in a position to feed you disinfo.

I can only speak for myself but I like RT and Rawstory more than Infowars. At the same time I know not to take it too seriously. I get my serious information from Google Scholar, Wikipedia, and my own primary sources.

Example:
secondary source -> http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
primary source -> http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9354310

Princeton did a study which proved scientifically that the United States is not a democracy or a republic but is an oligarchy. The primary source is the journal and the truth can be found in journals like these. Then you have media instruments which sometimes take something in a journal and spin it, adding ideology and politics, or in other cases they rely on pseudo-science, or in rare cases they bring experts on who actually know what they talk about but it's rare and even then it can be part of spin. So I just like to look at the papers from the .edu for myself and reach my own conclusion on whether or not it's true.

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Re: PayPal - Copyright to your content if you use them
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2015, 01:14:01 AM »

Can you believe this nonsense. Terms & Conditions Update as of july..

“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

http://www.infowars.com/paypal-asserts-copyright-ownership-over-all-intellectual-property-of-its-users/

AOL does that too. Never send your content over AOL.

By the way you may want to use a more professional source than infowars. Try http://www.RT.com instead.

RT is just Russian gov propaganda. This is one place I disagree with you lucky...and there aren't many.  Infowars breaks ALOT of seriously nasty shit...even if alex hypes stuff a bit too much. But it seems most of the sheep only start moving based off fear (this is actually pretty much psych 101).  AT least he uses fear to get people questioning authority.

It's all propaganda. That includes Alex Jones.

But you can choose the propaganda which you agree with rather than that which you disagree with.

If you're interested in knowing the truth then no one is going to spoon feed it to you. You have to investigate and find it for yourself. Anyone who offers to reveal the truth is in a position to feed you disinfo.

I can only speak for myself but I like RT and Rawstory more than Infowars. At the same time I know not to take it too seriously. I get my serious information from Google Scholar, Wikipedia, and my own primary sources.

Example:
secondary source -> http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
primary source -> http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9354310

Princeton did a study which proved scientifically that the United States is not a democracy or a republic but is an oligarchy. The primary source is the journal and the truth can be found in journals like these. Then you have media instruments which sometimes take something in a journal and spin it, adding ideology and politics, or in other cases they rely on pseudo-science, or in rare cases they bring experts on who actually know what they talk about but it's rare and even then it can be part of spin. So I just like to look at the papers from the .edu for myself and reach my own conclusion on whether or not it's true.

I'd be silly to disagree with those points..
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Re: PayPal - Copyright to your content if you use them
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2015, 03:36:59 AM »

Paul Craig Roberts, the former treasury guy, is by far the best person i found for economic advice.

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2015, 05:27:47 AM »

Can you believe this nonsense. Terms & Conditions Update as of july..

“When providing us with content or posting content (in each case for publication, whether on- or off-line) using the Services, you grant the PayPal Group a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, royalty-free, sublicensable (through multiple tiers) right to exercise any and all copyright, publicity, trademarks, database rights and intellectual property rights you have in the content, in any media known now or in the future. Further, to the fullest extent permitted under applicable law, you waive your moral rights and promise not to assert such rights against the PayPal Group, its sublicensees or assignees. You represent and warrant that none of the following infringe any intellectual property right: your provision of content to us, your posting of content using the Services, and the PayPal Group’s use of such content (including of works derived from it) in connection with the Services.”

http://www.infowars.com/paypal-asserts-copyright-ownership-over-all-intellectual-property-of-its-users/

AOL does that too. Never send your content over AOL.

By the way you may want to use a more professional source than infowars. Try http://www.RT.com instead.

RT is just Russian gov propaganda. This is one place I disagree with you lucky...and there aren't many.  Infowars breaks ALOT of seriously nasty shit...even if alex hypes stuff a bit too much. But it seems most of the sheep only start moving based off fear (this is actually pretty much psych 101).  AT least he uses fear to get people questioning authority.

Thinking that RT it's propaganda - propaganda by itself.
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