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Offline robrigo

Information Liquidity TED talk
« on: April 25, 2015, 02:11:51 PM »

This is a very insightful talk discussing the emergent information economy and how we can scale it up, taking cues from how life itself manages ultra-complexity, and from looking at innovations that enabled the globalized economy to prosper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgltc6xi00&app=desktop

 tl;dr using p2p networks and a universal container for information, we can solve the problems of resiliency and scalability into trillions of nodes (people, devices).
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Re: Information Liquidity TED talk
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2015, 02:58:10 PM »
This is a very insightful talk discussing the emergent information economy and how we can scale it up, taking cues from how life itself manages ultra-complexity, and from looking at innovations that enabled the globalized economy to prosper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgltc6xi00&app=desktop

 tl;dr using p2p networks and a universal container for information, we can solve the problems of resiliency and scalability into trillions of nodes (people, devices).

Nice!  I now have many more questions than answers ...  Good ted talk.

What's the deal with the computerized slides? just a presentation gimmick?
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Re: Information Liquidity TED talk
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2015, 03:04:40 PM »
This is a very insightful talk discussing the emergent information economy and how we can scale it up, taking cues from how life itself manages ultra-complexity, and from looking at innovations that enabled the globalized economy to prosper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgltc6xi00&app=desktop

 tl;dr using p2p networks and a universal container for information, we can solve the problems of resiliency and scalability into trillions of nodes (people, devices).

Nice!  I now have many more questions than answers ...  Good ted talk.

What's the deal with the computerized slides? just a presentation gimmick?

I think it was simply to point out the ubiquity of computing looking into the future where we can scale production of cheaper and smaller machines. When we have trillions of devices, our current models of information transfer will break down in lieu of the universal, p2p, containerized format.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_centric_networking

CCN seems like an approach towards defining this universal container.
« Last Edit: April 25, 2015, 03:08:06 PM by robrigo »

Offline luckybit

Re: Information Liquidity TED talk
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2015, 03:16:14 PM »
This is a very insightful talk discussing the emergent information economy and how we can scale it up, taking cues from how life itself manages ultra-complexity, and from looking at innovations that enabled the globalized economy to prosper.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFgltc6xi00&app=desktop

 tl;dr using p2p networks and a universal container for information, we can solve the problems of resiliency and scalability into trillions of nodes (people, devices).

The knowledge economy yes. A decentralized emergent knowledge economy.

Beyond that here is a post from the Maidsafe community in a related subject:
http://blog.maidsafe.net/2015/03/19/the-next-generation-sharing-economy/
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Offline lovejoy

Re: Information Liquidity TED talk
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2015, 05:45:52 PM »

Thanks for the perfect Saturday morning rabbit hole everyone...  between the first link robrigo posted and that Maidsafe article courtesy of luckybit there's a lot to consider here.  I look out the window and feel we are living in the 'fight for information' age.

Time to go outside, grab a spade, and work on the garden... ahhh, natural information systems... thank you DNA! ;)

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Re: Information Liquidity TED talk
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2015, 11:52:42 AM »
tl;dr using p2p networks and a universal container for information, we can solve the problems of resiliency and scalability into trillions of nodes (people, devices).

Did he actually say anything else than this? I don't like this kind of talks with nice presentations, but nothing to present  :(
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Re: Information Liquidity TED talk
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2015, 02:06:14 PM »
tl;dr using p2p networks and a universal container for information, we can solve the problems of resiliency and scalability into trillions of nodes (people, devices).

Did he actually say anything else than this? I don't like this kind of talks with nice presentations, but nothing to present  :(

Not directly, that is my own oversimplification of it.  8) I tried to keep it kind of vague so as not to spoil the video. I thought he presented a helpful context for thinking about information complexity, such as the fact that humans have only dealt with information for 6000 years, but nature has been dealing with genetic information for 3 billion years.

 It would be neat to find the DARPA software demo for a system using that universal container that he was talking about at the end and play with it.. might be on their OSS portal. He said that the system when used within DARPA resulted in a 400% increase in collaborative decision making and 300% improvement in situational awareness, much lower "time to learn", easily extensible, and easy on the bandwidth. I'll look into it more.

I guess they wrote a book about the same idea too, "Trillions": http://www.amazon.com/Trillions-Thriving-Emerging-Information-Ecology/dp/1118176073/

 

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