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Windows client almost unusable
« on: May 28, 2015, 09:43:30 AM »

I'm new to bitshares. I have started by installing the windows client and registered a name in the block chain. It took a very long time (despite a broadband connection) to synchronize the blockchain. The client seemed to hang multiple times. I had to kill it. Then it took ages for a restart. No progress bar or something shown. Then it continued with the blockchain and hung up again. But I could terminate it by closing the window. Nevertheless in the background a process remained active which occupied multiple gigabytes of main memory and slowed my really fast PC down a lot. I had to kill the process to get rid of it. That has to be done after each new use of the client software!!!

All this software makes an extremely immature impression. It is extremely slow and resource hungry. For me it is a sign, that bitshares is still far away from reaching a non-crypto, non-techno audience despite the heavy speculation with Bitshares currently happening on Chinese exchanges.

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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2015, 10:12:09 AM »
Welcome to the BitShares community, Frank,

All this software makes an extremely immature impression. It is extremely slow and resource hungry.
It totally is and there are very good reasons for it .. However, there is a web wallet in development and you should take a look at it at http://wallet.bitshares.org
Also note that BitShares is in version 0.9 and thus not to be considered 'stable' .. However, at the protocol level it is almost stable already

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For me it is a sign, that bitshares is still far away from reaching a non-crypto, non-techno audience despite the heavy speculation with Bitshares currently happening on Chinese exchanges.
I totally agree .. but considerable work has been done in the last few weeks (behind the scenes) to bring more easy-of-use and a user friendly interface ..
Things are evolving rapidly in BitShares ... keep you patience .. you won't regret it
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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2015, 10:31:48 AM »
I would avoid using the http://wallet.bitshares.org just yet, or at least use it with few funds at your own risk.

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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2015, 03:57:01 PM »
i too was having problem with my BTS windows client, and now it cannot open and export with some BTS inside it  :'(

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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2015, 04:41:01 PM »
If you are having trouble with windows client, please tell us what version of windows and what kind of computer/ram/cpu/hard disk you have.
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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 04:01:16 AM »
Win7 Ult 64 on HP laptop with i5 and 4Gb ram. 250Gb hdd sata.
Well, 6 months down the road and the wallet is as bad as ever. I gave up on it last time and moved all my BTSX to an exchange in frustration and desperation. Yesterday I gave 0.9.2 another try. I'm still trying 24 hourslater. Read Frank's post at the top of this thread to see what I am experiencing.
I learned about the Moonstone wallet and donated. It looks very good but sadly, it seems the target needed for MIT will not be reached. Very little takeup in what could be a killer wallet. Very sad.
Holding BTSX feels like kissing a frog over and over but no prince. Please do something to get the wallet up to speed. Even BTC on qt feels fast compared to this thing.
Patiently waiting, holding and kissing. ;)

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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 06:22:49 AM »
Win7 Ult 64 on HP laptop with i5 and 4Gb ram. 250Gb hdd sata.
Well, 6 months down the road and the wallet is as bad as ever. I gave up on it last time and moved all my BTSX to an exchange in frustration and desperation. Yesterday I gave 0.9.2 another try. I'm still trying 24 hourslater. Read Frank's post at the top of this thread to see what I am experiencing.
I learned about the Moonstone wallet and donated. It looks very good but sadly, it seems the target needed for MIT will not be reached. Very little takeup in what could be a killer wallet. Very sad.
Holding BTSX feels like kissing a frog over and over but no prince. Please do something to get the wallet up to speed. Even BTC on qt feels fast compared to this thing.
Patiently waiting, holding and kissing. ;)

moonstone will be released anyways. just not under this specific license :)

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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2015, 05:54:07 AM »
I agree. The latest windows client seems worse than older versions.  It won't finish syncing despite reloading the blockchain and it heats up my laptop a lot.
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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2015, 08:18:57 PM »
Hi Guys,

I was out of sych 8 days. After a couple of hours it synched but then the transaction history was stuck @ 1%. I have restarted and now I am 334days out of synch..I have restarted just in case but I am still out of synch 334 days...

Please advise if there is a fast solution to that..I really can't believe that I have to synch all over again and then again all over the transaction history with the risk of crashing again...And by the way the client just uses all my memory...
v.0.9.1 windows 7

Any advise?
Thanks

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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2015, 08:36:27 PM »
Hi Guys,

I was out of sych 8 days. After a couple of hours it synched but then the transaction history was stuck @ 1%. I have restarted and now I am 334days out of synch..I have restarted just in case but I am still out of synch 334 days...

Please advise if there is a fast solution to that..I really can't believe that I have to synch all over again and then again all over the transaction history with the risk of crashing again...And by the way the client just uses all my memory...
v.0.9.1 windows 7

Any advise?
Thanks

1) Use chainserver for syncing: http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/BitShares/Chain-Server
2) use the console client instead of GUI: bitshares_client.exe
3) do not open your wallet until you have fully synced the blockchain (check with "info" in terminal)

edit: I think fav has a thread that offers to download the (raw) chain as a torrent somewhere in the forum
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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2015, 09:14:38 PM »
edit: I think fav has a thread that offers to download the (raw) chain as a torrent somewhere in the forum

Here it is ... https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,16510.msg211140.html#msg211140

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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2015, 11:51:27 PM »
Thank you for the reply Xerox.However this looks way too complicated for me.. :(
I found an old copy of the chain so that worked. My problem is now that the transaction history is stuck at 3%. The memory usage on my laptop is 3.8GB!! I am pretty sure this is not normal..On my notebook the memory usage is 900Mb and usually my notebook is really slow..

So now I am wondering if there is something really going wrong with my laptop..Is there something I can do? 3.8GB and stuck at transaction 3% for hours is really ennoying..
Thanks!

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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2015, 12:53:27 PM »
Thank you for the reply Xerox.However this looks way too complicated for me.. :(
I found an old copy of the chain so that worked. My problem is now that the transaction history is stuck at 3%. The memory usage on my laptop is 3.8GB!! I am pretty sure this is not normal..On my notebook the memory usage is 900Mb and usually my notebook is really slow..

So now I am wondering if there is something really going wrong with my laptop..Is there something I can do? 3.8GB and stuck at transaction 3% for hours is really ennoying..
Thanks!
Transaction scanning can take ages for me too. The completion % barely moves either.
Luckily this is one of the major issues DPOS 2 will fix, I know that isn't much help right now though.
If it's stuck more than ~5hours I'd replace the chain folder and start again

FYI, after every successful resync (after failure) and confirming that all is well, I close the bts client and navigate to the folder where the chain is stored and copy it to an external harddrive.
In case of a failure, I immediately close the client (which is attempting to redownload the entire chain from scratch) and go to this externally saved folder and then copy it back into the bts client folder.
When I reload it again, it should be synced back to the same point at which you saved/backed up the folder previously.

FOR WINDOWS:
1. Have fully synced client running. Check all is well, then close the client.
2. Open the start menu, and search
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%appdata%
3. When the folder opens, go to Roaming (you may already be in this folder straight from %appdata%)
4. Open the "BitShares" folder, and then right click and copy the "chain" folder. (Make sure you copy and don't cut it)
5. Paste the copied "chain" folder to an external harddrive, or elsewhere, My Documents etc
6. Rename the folder to "bts chain backup dd/mm" (day/month)
7. Open up bts again and it should load as before, normally.


8. If the client ever fails to download, find your "bts chain backup" folder, and copy it into the %appdata%/roaming/BitShares folder, replacing the existing "chain" folder.
9. Rename the newly copied folder from "bts backup" to "chain".
10. Keep a copy of the backup where you saved it before, in case it all fails again.
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Re: Windows client almost unusable
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2015, 05:19:45 PM »
after spending all day yesterday and at least 7 hours today I am at a point that the client is fully synched, the transaction history is scanned but still I can't do anything.. :(

I can see my balances on the dashboard but when I enter in an exhange market the balances are shown zero..Some times the order books don't appear...
In one machine I get an error message that windows will have to shut down bitshares due to the increased use of memory...lol..that is a new one...

I must have opened and closed the client at least 20 times today..nothing...

Can I do anything about this? Can the devs do anything about this? Should I just forget about BTS for the next 2-3 months and revisit then? Does anyone else experience similar problems or am I the only one here? Seriously how do you guys even trade with the GUI? Or am I the only one trying to use the GUI and everyone else is using external exchanges?
oouuuff... :(



 

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