NXT and BTS on a common Graphine blockchain

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Tuck Fheman

Quote from: jsidhu on July 23, 2015, 06:49:53 PM
Yup I've already worked out a design need to implement.. hopefully it will give an idea of how to implement and get picked up by bitshare devs. I will try to keep it a seperate c++ lib so it can be reusable in any c++ project.

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cylonmaker2053

Quote from: Ander on June 11, 2015, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: jsidhu on June 11, 2015, 09:48:35 PM
i have a feeling bts is about to explode any day now... its the right time to put the TPS news out there.

Yes.  The chart for the past several months looks like a huge cup and handle.  And even that handle looks like a mini cup and handle. :)

I feel like BTS should be over 2 cents already.  When Darkcoin (aka Dash) did that rebrand and came out with "instant" transactions and masternodes, its price went up a ton.  BTS just came out advertising stats that are WAYYY better than that, and will support 100000 TPS at a time when Bitcoin's major problem is this blocksize/TPS issue that no one can get consensus on. 

And BTS is still massively oversold from that absurd decline of the past few months. 

We are on the verge of an enormous rise.  I've got another 100k purchase coming as soon as I receive some coinbase BTC.  I just hope its in time.

i always love your optimism  +5%

jsidhu

Quote from: Tuck Fheman on July 23, 2015, 12:05:17 AM
Quote from: jsidhu on July 19, 2015, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on July 18, 2015, 11:27:55 PM
Quote from: cass on July 10, 2015, 07:49:21 AM
Quote from: jsidhu on July 09, 2015, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Akado on June 12, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
i would personally like qora to join, bc of AT and their blockchain hosted web pages. or something that complements with our DNS/Voting projects, that would make sense. Which ones do you know that could fill those requirements?
once every coin  implements AT then you have true DEX between all the coins using ACCT.

this

+5% +5%

Amen. BTW, Beyond Bitcoin will be doing a show in the coming weeks with Vrontis from Qora, vbcs from Qora/CIYAM, Ian Knowles from CIYAM and cass (see above) from CIYAM/BitShares.
I am implementing at in the first bitcoin based clone the only oned that exists are in java.. perhaps once I do this then bts team can check out the source in c++ and port over to bitshares 2.0.

Im working with ian and vasilis (vbcs)

lel, I read the first sentence and was ready to reply with, "you should talk to CIYAM". ;)

Yup I've already worked out a design need to implement.. hopefully it will give an idea of how to implement and get picked up by bitshare devs. I will try to keep it a seperate c++ lib so it can be reusable in any c++ project.
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Tuck Fheman

Quote from: jsidhu on July 19, 2015, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: Tuck Fheman on July 18, 2015, 11:27:55 PM
Quote from: cass on July 10, 2015, 07:49:21 AM
Quote from: jsidhu on July 09, 2015, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Akado on June 12, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
i would personally like qora to join, bc of AT and their blockchain hosted web pages. or something that complements with our DNS/Voting projects, that would make sense. Which ones do you know that could fill those requirements?
once every coin  implements AT then you have true DEX between all the coins using ACCT.

this

+5% +5%

Amen. BTW, Beyond Bitcoin will be doing a show in the coming weeks with Vrontis from Qora, vbcs from Qora/CIYAM, Ian Knowles from CIYAM and cass (see above) from CIYAM/BitShares.
I am implementing at in the first bitcoin based clone the only oned that exists are in java.. perhaps once I do this then bts team can check out the source in c++ and port over to bitshares 2.0.

Im working with ian and vasilis (vbcs)

lel, I read the first sentence and was ready to reply with, "you should talk to CIYAM". ;)

jsidhu

Quote from: Tuck Fheman on July 18, 2015, 11:27:55 PM
Quote from: cass on July 10, 2015, 07:49:21 AM
Quote from: jsidhu on July 09, 2015, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Akado on June 12, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
i would personally like qora to join, bc of AT and their blockchain hosted web pages. or something that complements with our DNS/Voting projects, that would make sense. Which ones do you know that could fill those requirements?
once every coin  implements AT then you have true DEX between all the coins using ACCT.

this

+5% +5%

Amen. BTW, Beyond Bitcoin will be doing a show in the coming weeks with Vrontis from Qora, vbcs from Qora/CIYAM, Ian Knowles from CIYAM and cass (see above) from CIYAM/BitShares.
I am implementing at in the first bitcoin based clone the only oned that exists are in java.. perhaps once I do this then bts team can check out the source in c++ and port over to bitshares 2.0.

Im working with ian and vasilis (vbcs)
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Troglodactyl

Quote from: devlux on July 18, 2015, 10:37:54 PM
Sorry but isn't it more likely that BTS would be re-implemented in NXT?  Not trying to start a flamewar here, just saying they DO have this...   http://nxt.org/about/monetary-system/

The main reason I prefer BTS to NXT is the solid pegging mechanism and yield interest on bitUSD.
I know more than a handful of others that feel pretty much the same way.

If bitUSD is changing, then it changes the whole value proposition in my mind.  Nevertheless that pegging mechanism is essential to widespread adoption.  The yield is admittedly secondary, but I would hold a whole lot less bitUSD if there wasn't a good yield.

Thanks for the info guys, it's helpful!

Does NXT have a way to balance the trustlessness of more decentralization against the cost of additional redundancy intelligently?  That's the core of why I think BitShares has a chance of scaling to handle mainstream adoption.  Without that, I think other networks will choke on success and become either centralized, unprofitable, or both.

Certainly the actual user features are important, but without an economically sustainable core design to carry them, they're wasted.

Tuck Fheman

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Quote from: cass on July 10, 2015, 07:49:21 AM
Quote from: jsidhu on July 09, 2015, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Akado on June 12, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
i would personally like qora to join, bc of AT and their blockchain hosted web pages. or something that complements with our DNS/Voting projects, that would make sense. Which ones do you know that could fill those requirements?
once every coin  implements AT then you have true DEX between all the coins using ACCT.

this

+5% +5%

Amen. BTW, Beyond Bitcoin will be doing a show in the coming weeks with Vrontis from Qora, vbcs from Qora/CIYAM, Ian Knowles from CIYAM and cass (see above) from CIYAM/BitShares.

Tuck Fheman

Quote from: devlux on July 18, 2015, 10:37:54 PM
Sorry but isn't it more likely that BTS would be re-implemented in NXT?

That would probably look like this ...

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tbone

Quote from: devlux on July 18, 2015, 10:37:54 PM
Sorry but isn't it more likely that BTS would be re-implemented in NXT?  Not trying to start a flamewar here, just saying they DO have this...   http://nxt.org/about/monetary-system/

Have you checked out Bitshares User-issued Assets?
https://bitshares.org/technology/user-issued-assets/


Quote from: devlux on July 18, 2015, 10:37:54 PM

The main reason I prefer BTS to NXT is the solid pegging mechanism and yield interest on bitUSD.
I know more than a handful of others that feel pretty much the same way.

If bitUSD is changing, then it changes the whole value proposition in my mind.  Nevertheless that pegging mechanism is essential to widespread adoption.  The yield is admittedly secondary, but I would hold a whole lot less bitUSD if there wasn't a good yield.

Thanks for the info guys, it's helpful!

If I'm not mistaken, you will still be able to earn a yield in Bitshares 2.0, but not just by having your bitUSD sitting there.  You actually have to lend it out.  This can be done via the Collateralized Bond Market feature:

https://bitshares.org/technology/collateralized-bond-market/   

devlux

Sorry but isn't it more likely that BTS would be re-implemented in NXT?  Not trying to start a flamewar here, just saying they DO have this...   http://nxt.org/about/monetary-system/

The main reason I prefer BTS to NXT is the solid pegging mechanism and yield interest on bitUSD.
I know more than a handful of others that feel pretty much the same way.

If bitUSD is changing, then it changes the whole value proposition in my mind.  Nevertheless that pegging mechanism is essential to widespread adoption.  The yield is admittedly secondary, but I would hold a whole lot less bitUSD if there wasn't a good yield.

Thanks for the info guys, it's helpful!

cass

Quote from: jsidhu on July 09, 2015, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Akado on June 12, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
i would personally like qora to join, bc of AT and their blockchain hosted web pages. or something that complements with our DNS/Voting projects, that would make sense. Which ones do you know that could fill those requirements?
once every coin  implements AT then you have true DEX between all the coins using ACCT.

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jsidhu

Quote from: Akado on June 12, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
i would personally like qora to join, bc of AT and their blockchain hosted web pages. or something that complements with our DNS/Voting projects, that would make sense. Which ones do you know that could fill those requirements?
once every coin  implements AT then you have true DEX between all the coins using ACCT.
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Akado

i would personally like qora to join, bc of AT and their blockchain hosted web pages. or something that complements with our DNS/Voting projects, that would make sense. Which ones do you know that could fill those requirements?
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