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Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« on: June 15, 2015, 08:22:25 PM »

Censorship is raging.
Thread Wake up call: BitShares 2.0 is NOT BitShares has been locked and OP rageously striked through by Bytemaster.
Thread Cryptonomex? WTF is this? has been locked as well.
Thread I guess I am going to have to go to BitcoinTalk moved to "Random Discussion"

Clearly we these threads were not constructive.
Please people try to be constructive.
Here is a list of tips to avoid having your thread censored

Do's:
- Show support for Cryptonomex, Graphene, Bitshares 2.0
- Express your enthusiasm for the future of Bitshares
- Express gratitude to the core dev team for doing everything for the community, without thinking about their own interests.
- Express admiration for how selfless the core dev team is and how it's all for our common good.
- Call anyone expressing doubts and concerns about the move a fudster
- Ignore all arguments that cast the slightest shadow of doubt on the migration

Don't:
- Express concerns about the licensing matters, ownership of intellectual properties
- Ask where the original mission of Bitshares of being an open toolkit to create DACs and get sharedrop has gone
- Ask embarassing questions or challenge anything about Graphene, Cryptonomex and Bitshares 2.0
- Make any remark that may imply that the community is being taken advantage of
- Question the motives of the core dev team
- Ask details about Cryptonomex
- Imply that the core dev team is being greedy

Repeat after me:
- The community is not being forced, we are happy to move to Bitshares2.0, there shall be no debate or questions asked.
- The community is not being forced, we are happy to move to Bitshares2.0, there shall be no debate or questions asked.
- The community is not being forced, we are happy to move to Bitshares2.0, there shall be no debate or questions asked.

I'll personally report to moderators any posts that don't comply with the above.
You've been warned.

Offline fuzzy

Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2015, 08:33:41 PM »
Why has this been moved @fav?  This might not be popular....but general is where it should stay.

Communities grow stronger because of adversity...not because they ignore it.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2015, 08:37:56 PM by fuzzy »
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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2015, 08:35:36 PM »
Why has this been moved @fav?  This might not be popular....but are we going to start censoring here?

I dislike the Titles and OPs' tone of those 2 threads as much as the next guy.

But closing 100s of comments of numerous other people and calling it 'consolidation'????

And now moving everything that is not cheerleading to random??????
« Last Edit: June 15, 2015, 08:41:23 PM by tonyk »
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2015, 08:36:10 PM »
Why has this been moved @fav?  This might not be popular....but are we going to start censoring here?

It was moved not deleted. He's not be censored. Maybe it makes more sense in Meta but given it's a piece of satire Random isn't a bad home.
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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2015, 08:38:58 PM »
Why has this been moved @fav?  This might not be popular....but general is where it should stay.

I'm not here to win a popularity contest :)

also, it's moved to random, not censored. If I see some sane reasoning in this thread (which I doubt) I'll be happy to move it back.

Offline fuzzy

Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2015, 09:02:14 PM »
Why has this been moved @fav?  This might not be popular....but general is where it should stay.

I'm not here to win a popularity contest :)

also, it's moved to random, not censored. If I see some sane reasoning in this thread (which I doubt) I'll be happy to move it back.

Rather than implying my post is not coming from a place of sanity, please listen closely.  This is not random...it has explicit intent and a direct message.  Just like a few of the other posts that have been moved. 

Since we are trying to be solution-oriented here and not shying away from the growing pains of our community as though they are some  weakness that threatens our very existence, lets have a section of the forum named something like "Questions and Concerns".  Let us not call it something like "Crying Room", "Bear-Party"...etc.  Make it descriptive and respectful of legitimate (and non-legitimate) criticisms.   

I would have no problems seeing a post like these moved there, but moved to "Random" is definitely not the place for it...though I do understand why this would draw a quick response like what occurred here.  :)
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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2015, 09:43:28 PM »
Moved to random definitely does feel like censorship.  It never feels good to have one's posts censored.  Lets allow the discussion to continue.
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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2015, 11:10:01 PM »
Lol..
Shouldn't have been moved IMO. Currently no open critical threads in bts2 section
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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2015, 11:40:25 PM »
Thanks :)
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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2015, 04:56:58 AM »
Why has this been moved @fav?  This might not be popular....but general is where it should stay.

I'm not here to win a popularity contest :)

also, it's moved to random, not censored. If I see some sane reasoning in this thread (which I doubt) I'll be happy to move it back.
Irrespective of the content of these threads, I am concerned about the precedents being set here.
Why should moderators judge the "sanity" of the position in any thread? - that is for individuals to judge for themselves.
Why should byte master or anybody else have the privileged right to strike through comments of others that they feel are inaccurate?
Freedom of speech?
Very confused...

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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2015, 05:24:44 AM »
wow, the strikethrough was a bit much.  i am disappoint. =/

personally i don't mind post being moved, so long as a link is left in the orig thread, which appears to be the case.



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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2015, 06:48:12 AM »
Moving a thread is no censorship.
As for freedom of speech: this is a centralized forum with admins and mods - we ban spammers/bots on a daily basis here, which would cut someone's freedom of speach too.
we have to make decisions based on experience and knowledge here.

What I'm against is locking and editing posts!

allow me to add a personal note: all it takes is one or two users to light the forum on fire and get out the pitchforks. someone said that we talk more than the Golden Girls and this is perfectly true  ;)

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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2015, 07:27:47 AM »
Moving a thread is no censorship.
As for freedom of speech: this is a centralized forum with admins and mods - we ban spammers/bots on a daily basis here, which would cut someone's freedom of speach too.
we have to make decisions based on experience and knowledge here.

What I'm against is locking and editing posts!

allow me to add a personal note: all it takes is one or two users to light the forum on fire and get out the pitchforks. someone said that we talk more than the Golden Girls and this is perfectly true  ;)

Moving a thread to random discussions from Bitshares 2.0 when it criticizes Bitshares 2.0 IS censorship.

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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2015, 08:18:56 AM »
Moving a thread is no censorship.
As for freedom of speech: this is a centralized forum with admins and mods - we ban spammers/bots on a daily basis here, which would cut someone's freedom of speach too.
we have to make decisions based on experience and knowledge here.

What I'm against is locking and editing posts!

allow me to add a personal note: all it takes is one or two users to light the forum on fire and get out the pitchforks. someone said that we talk more than the Golden Girls and this is perfectly true  ;)

Moving a thread to random discussions from Bitshares 2.0 when it criticizes Bitshares 2.0 IS censorship.

this thread is not about BitShares 2.0 it's about censorship and forum meta

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Re: Do's and don'ts when discussing about Bitshares 2.0
« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2015, 05:42:37 AM »
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/20867/bitshares-2-0-plans-adapt-new-smartchains-cryptotechnology/

Click "criticisms" linked in the article. that's how you handle that! ;)

I'm sure it was unintentional since the signup link changed without notice too and all original referral links were getting redirected as well.

Good timing though!  :D

 

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