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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2015, 08:47:07 PM »

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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2015, 08:50:11 PM »
Yes,  the 60€ limit is not aplying in turists, everyone that had his card issued in a country other than Greece is safe.

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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2015, 09:47:28 PM »
Very true, but what happens if banks go ahead and take savings? 

If Greeks had this card they would not be limited....

But even more so, they could site in something other than Euro, and feel safe their savings were not to risk.

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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2015, 11:13:06 PM »
It's too late for the Greeks to do anything now, most people that saw it coming moved their money either under their mattresses or in banks out of Greece. I don't know how the banking system works but if ECB has the power to enforce a "savings haircut" in Greece then it will happen even if this means that euro will take a hit. There is a MASSIVE campaign in Greece from the old corrupt system to sway public opinion and they will use every weapon they can to create fear.

You can see with how much time the mainstream media covered the "No"(29/06) and "Yes"(30/06) "protests". 


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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2015, 01:06:26 AM »
Yes,  the 60€ limit is not aplying in turists, everyone that had his card issued in a country other than Greece is safe.

That's IF the ATM has cash to dispense.  Greece has historically been a cash society, thus cards are not accepted everywhere.  Having something like the CCEDK NanoCard would be a plus however with banks closed, it's much more difficult to fund this.

Depending what happens on Sunday/Monday the situation may get much much worse.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/198816/article/ekathimerini/business/importers-protest-delays-in-getting-approval-for-transactions

Business's need a store of value just as other users have mentioned.  The problem is lack of gateways for the large initial funding required to get crypto moving.

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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2015, 03:24:44 AM »
Yes,  the 60€ limit is not aplying in turists, everyone that had his card issued in a country other than Greece is safe.

That's IF the ATM has cash to dispense.  Greece has historically been a cash society, thus cards are not accepted everywhere.  Having something like the CCEDK NanoCard would be a plus however with banks closed, it's much more difficult to fund this.

Depending what happens on Sunday/Monday the situation may get much much worse.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/198816/article/ekathimerini/business/importers-protest-delays-in-getting-approval-for-transactions

Business's need a store of value just as other users have mentioned.  The problem is lack of gateways for the large initial funding required to get crypto moving.

Glad you mentioned that. 

Let's just say I have been working on that solution for a while - more announcements to come soon :)

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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2015, 04:38:33 AM »
Now would be the time to drop the news if ever.
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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2015, 05:12:56 AM »
I do not want to spoil the surprise!

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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2015, 12:02:49 PM »
Don't wait too long. Now would be the time to ride the momentum this has given us...and not enough is said about the power of momentum.
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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2015, 06:03:45 PM »
Now is the time to advertise bitshares and nanocard in Greece...But unfortunately we are not ready yet...

Having said that Is there anyone Greek in here that would be interested to trade with me some bitcoins?  I buy bitcoins and send EUR via web transfer. Unfortunately I can only send within a Greek Bank. If anyone in here wants to trade with me please pm..

I will then take the bitcoins and withdraw using the nanocard euros from the ATMs and will give flyers about bitshares and nanocard to people waiting in the long  quees..I don't have a single bitcoin and I prefer not to eat for a month than sell my BTS at this market cap..

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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2015, 07:37:23 PM »
Someone should try to contact Varoufakis, Liondanni?!!

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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2015, 06:45:06 AM »
Someone should try to contact Varoufakis, Liondanni?!!

@bitsapphire - AFAIK .. you were getting in contact with him on last hackathon in Singapure... don't you?
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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2015, 10:28:06 AM »
Someone should try to contact Varoufakis, Liondanni?!!

@bitsapphire - AFAIK .. you were getting in contact with him on last hackathon in Singapure... don't you?

I actually had the chance to have a great discussion with him before he became finance minister, back when he was at Valve. He is among the smartest people I know.

Bitshares is not at the stage where it can help Greece. We are still at the innovation and product development stage. Though Bitshares is both the most advanced tech and community (we already made and fixed the technical and community mistakes Ethereum is just starting to go through). No government should even consider using crypto until it gets to the industrial-grade level, which is another 1-3 years in the future. Patience my friends. :)

That said, I would not be surprised if a government switched their entire financial system to crypto within the next 5-10 years. I am pretty sure, that if the tech was ready V-man would definitely consider issuing IOUs redeemable at interest and usable for tax payment. That would be the ideal solution to the Greek crisis atm and he has written about this already in his blog.
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Re: One way to start a conversation about Greece
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