[ANN] Peak Venture Group Adopts the BitShares Exchange Network

[Stan]

Tragic.  What a strain on credibility

In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.

You just pivot and carry on. 

Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.

To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.

To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.

Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.

Of course you are right. That doesn't change the fact that Stan's cocksure attitude leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many community members. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point IMHO.

Horsefeathers. He has literally informed the community of developments as they have happened once he has been given liberty to do so. He is not then responsible for all the businesses that have shown an interest, nor the manner or timescale in which they execute their BitShares implementation. Stan is busy, along with many others, reaching out and forming partnerships that will sustain Cryptonomex and grow BitShares. This is precisely what BitShares needs. Any reasonable person would understand this and would be interested in learning of promising partnerships in development. If they succeed or adapt or fail is not down to Stan or anyone reaching out. What's important is the strategy and the direction.....there are people making the right things happen and if only some of them succeed, well a pebble can start an avalanche.

Yes, of course Ben - to everything you said. I just think his hyperbole is over the top and I personally don't find it very persuasive. Hopefully I'm eating crow in a few months.

Of course, I could keep all this stuff secret and be accused of insider trading...

You are free to research each announcement and make of them what you will.

[phillyguy]

Tragic.  What a strain on credibility

In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.

You just pivot and carry on. 

Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.

To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.

To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.

Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.

Of course you are right. That doesn't change the fact that Stan's cocksure attitude leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many community members. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point IMHO.

Horsefeathers. He has literally informed the community of developments as they have happened once he has been given liberty to do so. He is not then responsible for all the businesses that have shown an interest, nor the manner or timescale in which they execute their BitShares implementation. Stan is busy, along with many others, reaching out and forming partnerships that will sustain Cryptonomex and grow BitShares. This is precisely what BitShares needs. Any reasonable person would understand this and would be interested in learning of promising partnerships in development. If they succeed or adapt or fail is not down to Stan or anyone reaching out. What's important is the strategy and the direction.....there are people making the right things happen and if only some of them succeed, well a pebble can start an avalanche.

Yes, of course Ben - to everything you said. I just think his hyperbole is over the top and I personally don't find it very persuasive. Hopefully I'm eating crow in a few months.

[lil_jay890]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.

To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.

Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum

Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?

Not shooting from the hip... I would not invest in any company that takes advice from an online forum.  Do you notice how bytemaster doesn't respond to whiney members of this community?

Bytemaster has always taken valid criticism seriously. He has changed his original plan on more than one occasion after receiving community feedback.

What are you talking about?

I'm saying real businesses don't make business decisions based on forums...

[onceuponatime]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.

To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.

Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum

Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?

Not shooting from the hip... I would not invest in any company that takes advice from an online forum.  Do you notice how bytemaster doesn't respond to whiney members of this community?

Bytemaster has always taken valid criticism seriously. He has changed his original plan on more than one occasion after receiving community feedback.

What are you talking about?

[lil_jay890]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.

To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.

Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum

Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?

Not shooting from the hip... I would not invest in any company that takes advice from an online forum.  Do you notice how bytemaster doesn't respond to whiney members of this community?

[Pheonike]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.

To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.

Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum

Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?

If that's the case, why would they even bother share dropping on it??

[Ben Mason]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.

To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.

Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum

Hahahahaha! Well that's an interesting point of view.

[onceuponatime]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.

To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.

Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum

Have you thought that through, or are you shooting from the hip?

[lil_jay890]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

And a "peak" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.

To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.

Any real company with real business plans shouldn't give a shit about what this community thinks or posts on this forum

[BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

And a "peek" is the right word for it.. there is plenty more that just hasn't been announced on the forum.

To be blunt.. with some of the toxic demanding entitled attitudes that surround this forum, I don't blame any company who doesn't want to have their names made the play things of some characters here. Stan does his best to edify and be welcoming... but it is almost inevitable that the mobs first response is to demand name changes, get shared dropped, and tell them how they should be running their business to name just a few. Even I have gotten caught up in this backwards culture at times. Don't expect this forum to be where announcements are made in the future. Expect to see them first in Reuters and the like.

[godzirra]

Personally I appreciate every peek into what's going on behind the scenes. I want all the info I can get. For better or for worse. I can temper my own expectations.

[Ben Mason]

Tragic.  What a strain on credibility

In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.

You just pivot and carry on. 

Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.

To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.

To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.

Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.

Of course you are right. That doesn't change the fact that Stan's cocksure attitude leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many community members. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point IMHO.

Horsefeathers. He has literally informed the community of developments as they have happened once he has been given liberty to do so. He is not then responsible for all the businesses that have shown an interest, nor the manner or timescale in which they execute their BitShares implementation. Stan is busy, along with many others, reaching out and forming partnerships that will sustain Cryptonomex and grow BitShares. This is precisely what BitShares needs. Any reasonable person would understand this and would be interested in learning of promising partnerships in development. If they succeed or adapt or fail is not down to Stan or anyone reaching out. What's important is the strategy and the direction.....there are people making the right things happen and if only some of them succeed, well a pebble can start an avalanche.

[phillyguy]

Tragic.  What a strain on credibility

In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.

You just pivot and carry on. 

Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.

To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.

To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.

Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.

Of course you are right. That doesn't change the fact that Stan's cocksure attitude leaves a sour taste in the mouth of many community members. He's the boy who cried wolf at this point IMHO.

[topcandle]

Tragic.  What a strain on credibility

In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.

You just pivot and carry on. 

Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.

To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.

To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.

Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.

I agree wholeheartedly to everything you said.  But expectations need to managed from here on out.  Failure is embraced, but are we learning from it?

[Murderistic]

Tragic.  What a strain on credibility

In business, you seldom have total control of events, in fact you seldom have any control.

You just pivot and carry on. 

Sometimes plans work out quicker than expected, sometimes there are setbacks that move projected goals.

To let a change in plans from a situation that you cannot discourage you, is to fail in business.

To carry on in spite of it all is the true measure of success.

Do not discourage yourself and others, celebrate the willingness to move forward in spite of all obstacles.