I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen - redux

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donkeypong

Quote from: Ander on September 25, 2015, 01:12:21 AM

In the long run the BTS price will be based on the profits it generates, in the same way you would value a company (EPS and growth rate).

However, instead of paying dividends, profits take the form of burned BTS, so its like a profitable company that spends all its money buying back shares.  It could become like Berkshire Hathaway in that respect.

If your stock appreciates like Berkshire Hathaway has, then no need for a dividend. Maybe one day, a single BTS will be worth $193,000 like Buffett's A-class stock.

Ander

Quote from: DataSecurityNode on September 24, 2015, 06:40:44 PM
Quote from: CLains on September 24, 2015, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: DataSecurityNode on September 24, 2015, 06:41:00 AM
Not to detract from the excitement ... but how does BTS reach heights of value like that when it is not in itself a currency? I mean.. BTS only utility is the bitshares network now and in 2.0. If it is attached to the cost of transactions, why would it reach $100? I can understand it maybe reaching $1 or maybe $5 with the shifting sands of fiat.. help me see why it would go beyond?

The collateral used in BitShares is BTS. This means that for every bitAsset, there is some amount of BTS locked away. The total value of BitShares is always proportional to the amount of bitAssets people hold. This is one of the main reasons why BTS value proposition is unlike anything else in cryptoworld. If ANY of the bitAssets go viral and get a supply in the billions, BitShares will rise proportionally along with it.

I get that.. but how does market capitalization equate to higher valuation per bts? The value of bitshares is really as a collateral holder yes.. and transactional utility.. so with that said.. I am still hovering around the $1 to maybe $5 mark at most for where it can go. We can have billions in capitalization value and still have the price of bts be around the $1.

Am I totally missing something?

I just keep thinking about how BTS exists and is used and for that reason I don't see how its value can go beyond that of transactions and dollars/fiat. counterparts.

In the long run the BTS price will be based on the profits it generates, in the same way you would value a company (EPS and growth rate).

However, instead of paying dividends, profits take the form of burned BTS, so its like a profitable company that spends all its money buying back shares.  It could become like Berkshire Hathaway in that respect.
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Riverhead

Quote from: DataSecurityNode on September 24, 2015, 06:40:44 PM
I get that.. but how does market capitalization [of an asset] equate to higher valuation per bts

Supply and demand. If an asset goes viral demand for bts will rise faster than supply. Simple as that.

BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

Quote from: CLains on September 24, 2015, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: DataSecurityNode on September 24, 2015, 06:41:00 AM
Not to detract from the excitement ... but how does BTS reach heights of value like that when it is not in itself a currency? I mean.. BTS only utility is the bitshares network now and in 2.0. If it is attached to the cost of transactions, why would it reach $100? I can understand it maybe reaching $1 or maybe $5 with the shifting sands of fiat.. help me see why it would go beyond?

The collateral used in BitShares is BTS. This means that for every bitAsset, there is some amount of BTS locked away. The total value of BitShares is always proportional to the amount of bitAssets people hold. This is one of the main reasons why BTS value proposition is unlike anything else in cryptoworld. If ANY of the bitAssets go viral and get a supply in the billions, BitShares will rise proportionally along with it.

I get that.. but how does market capitalization equate to higher valuation per bts? The value of bitshares is really as a collateral holder yes.. and transactional utility.. so with that said.. I am still hovering around the $1 to maybe $5 mark at most for where it can go. We can have billions in capitalization value and still have the price of bts be around the $1.

Am I totally missing something?

I just keep thinking about how BTS exists and is used and for that reason I don't see how its value can go beyond that of transactions and dollars/fiat. counterparts.
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lakerta06

Quote from: speedy on September 23, 2015, 11:01:09 PM
Quote from: jsidhu on September 23, 2015, 06:24:32 PM
What are you going to do with your Bitshares wealth once your coins hit upwards of $100?

So just a 10000x increase from where we are now? Yeah right...
You know a couple years ago someone bought pizza  with 20000 btc. How many x is that?

donkeypong

Quote from: karnal on September 24, 2015, 09:23:39 AM
Quote from: CLains on September 24, 2015, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: DataSecurityNode on September 24, 2015, 06:41:00 AM
Not to detract from the excitement ... but how does BTS reach heights of value like that when it is not in itself a currency? I mean.. BTS only utility is the bitshares network now and in 2.0. If it is attached to the cost of transactions, why would it reach $100? I can understand it maybe reaching $1 or maybe $5 with the shifting sands of fiat.. help me see why it would go beyond?

The collateral used in BitShares is BTS. This means that for every bitAsset, there is some amount of BTS locked away. The total value of BitShares is always proportional to the amount of bitAssets people hold. This is one of the main reasons why BTS value proposition is unlike anything else in cryptoworld. If ANY of the bitAssets go viral and get a supply in the billions, BitShares will rise proportionally along with it.

+5%

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karnal

Quote from: CLains on September 24, 2015, 09:01:45 AM
Quote from: DataSecurityNode on September 24, 2015, 06:41:00 AM
Not to detract from the excitement ... but how does BTS reach heights of value like that when it is not in itself a currency? I mean.. BTS only utility is the bitshares network now and in 2.0. If it is attached to the cost of transactions, why would it reach $100? I can understand it maybe reaching $1 or maybe $5 with the shifting sands of fiat.. help me see why it would go beyond?

The collateral used in BitShares is BTS. This means that for every bitAsset, there is some amount of BTS locked away. The total value of BitShares is always proportional to the amount of bitAssets people hold. This is one of the main reasons why BTS value proposition is unlike anything else in cryptoworld. If ANY of the bitAssets go viral and get a supply in the billions, BitShares will rise proportionally along with it.

+5%

CLains

Quote from: DataSecurityNode on September 24, 2015, 06:41:00 AM
Not to detract from the excitement ... but how does BTS reach heights of value like that when it is not in itself a currency? I mean.. BTS only utility is the bitshares network now and in 2.0. If it is attached to the cost of transactions, why would it reach $100? I can understand it maybe reaching $1 or maybe $5 with the shifting sands of fiat.. help me see why it would go beyond?

The collateral used in BitShares is BTS. This means that for every bitAsset, there is some amount of BTS locked away. The total value of BitShares is always proportional to the amount of bitAssets people hold. This is one of the main reasons why BTS value proposition is unlike anything else in cryptoworld. If ANY of the bitAssets go viral and get a supply in the billions, BitShares will rise proportionally along with it.
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BunkerChainLabs-DataSecurityNode

Not to detract from the excitement ... but how does BTS reach heights of value like that when it is not in itself a currency? I mean.. BTS only utility is the bitshares network now and in 2.0. If it is attached to the cost of transactions, why would it reach $100? I can understand it maybe reaching $1 or maybe $5 with the shifting sands of fiat.. help me see why it would go beyond?
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onceuponatime

Quote from: DryWall on September 24, 2015, 04:39:18 AM
What happens after 2.0 development wise?

Developers (such as Cryptonomex, BitSaphire, etc.) can make proposals for features that they would want to work on, including cost and time frame. Shareholders then vote on the proposals.


jsidhu

Quote from: montpelerin on September 23, 2015, 11:50:11 PM
For the uninitiated:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12156.0

I swore the OP of that thread was the infamous rpietila, but it has since been changed to anonymous.



Huh?
I think it was someone else
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Chuckone

Bitshares market cap might not get as high as some of us around here would like it to.

If it does though, I'll still continue to work but I'll be financially independant. I'll never be working for a paycheck anymore. That would be GREAT!

If it doesn't, I believe it'll still grow enough that my gains can be used to do another investment in the next big thing. But that is in a far and distant future. Bitshares IS the next big thing.

Even if Bitshares reaches only 0.10-0.15$ in the next few years I'll still consider it to be one of the best investment I have done.