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[ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« on: January 09, 2014, 03:12:54 PM »



I'm happy to announce that our website, Coaex is now open!
You can purchase Gold and Silver Bars with MemoryCoin. We are planning to add more products soon.

Orders are shipped within 1 business day after payment clearence and a tracking number is provided within 2 business days.
Please note that order tracking is available only for a limited number of countries. A list of available countries with order tracking will be provided over time but United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland, Japan order tracking is possible.

Website: https://www.coaex.com
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 03:25:52 PM »
Do you also buy gold?

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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2014, 03:26:53 PM »
Do you also buy gold?

not at this time but will implement in the future. this will be an exchange marketplace.
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2014, 05:36:51 PM »
Do you also buy gold?

not at this time but will implement in the future. this will be an exchange marketplace.

Good. cant wait to pump some metal into it :)

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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2014, 07:01:10 PM »
I do not mean to offend - this is a generally applicable question / obstacle that any new MMC merchant stores, etc, will need to overcome for new users:

How can I or other MMC users trust that website?

E.g., I've been waiting for a Coinabul order for 4 months.  They stole my money, how do I know you aren't Coinabul in another form? [Edit: See post below.]

Right now, MMC Officers are about the only ones I trust by proxy through the community voting for them. If you had announced you were looking to support the existing CMO officer team, worked with them, been paid / tipped etc, and there were payment or support chains from the current CMO to a MMC address...I would consider that as "accumulating MMC trust".

Instead, you announced CMO candidacy in competition to the current CMO team.  I can only assume that you are their enemy.  Do they trust their enemy? Should I trust their enemy? Etc...

I don't mean anything personal - and most people wouldn't even consider this or really need to, but I approach everything from game theory, trust, and stakes, etc...

I know myself, I know other people, the community knows other people....but none of us knows everyone....how can we build and spread trust around the community?
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2014, 11:43:14 PM »
You either need to provide a vouch item or reveal your identity publicly by sending proof of ID to a trusted member
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2014, 12:06:16 AM »
wow
amazing 8)
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2014, 04:57:38 AM »
I like that...fun things could develop.

Maybe list the sponsor somewhere on site or something.

Maybe some people could add a counter of MMC received / etc instead of a page count :)
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2014, 05:22:10 AM »
+1 MemoryCoin

Got an email from Nolan Gisser of Coinabul after my off-handed remark above.  He said they had been trying to reach me for a non-PO shipping address...

I'm not remembering seeing those months of emails, and neither is my gmail archive...but I get distracted easy, so I'll assume it was my fault. 

If Nolan signs up for an MMC account to join the community, replies to this thread and sends 1 MMC to the address in my forum signature below,

Then I'll send the 1 MMC back to him (plus transfer fees) and reply to his email with a non-PO shipping address.
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2014, 05:50:43 AM »
+1 MemoryCoin

Got an email from Nolan Gisser of Coinabul after my off-handed remark above.  He said they had been trying to reach me for a non-PO shipping address...

I'm not remembering seeing those months of emails, and neither is my gmail archive...but I get distracted easy, so I'll assume it was my fault. 

If Nolan signs up for an MMC account to join the community, replies to this thread and sends 1 MMC to the address in my forum signature below,

Then I'll send the 1 MMC back to him (plus transfer fees) and reply to his email with a non-PO shipping address.
Weren't coinabul found out to be scammers, who didn't have any stock and just waited until the next price rise to actually send anything. Which was often damaged or otherwise shoddy?

Thats why I think he should reveal his identity or send a vouch
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2014, 09:07:09 AM »
I do not mean to offend - this is a generally applicable question / obstacle that any new MMC merchant stores, etc, will need to overcome for new users:

How can I or other MMC users trust that website?

Trust is established by time. You guys, can help me in this adventure considering that Coaex will help boost MMC prices but I'm not begging - markets find its own way. I may choose dealing with automated payment systems like BitPay and Coinbase, they are more convenient but then, I had to accept Bitcoin as a payment method and that would be no good for MemoryCoin. Now, there is manual order processing we have with MMC which is risky for the merchant but I'm not complaining. Sooner or later, MemoryCoin will have an automated payment gateway works with Bitcoin or maybe fiat currency.
In short, what I'm trying to do is to drive attention to MemoryCoin while competing against Amagi Metals and Coinabul.

Instead, you announced CMO candidacy in competition to the current CMO team.  I can only assume that you are their enemy.  Do they trust their enemy? Should I trust their enemy? Etc...

I don't mean anything personal - and most people wouldn't even consider this or really need to, but I approach everything from game theory, trust, and stakes, etc...

This is a delusion. Current CMO is not my enemy and will not be. I am here to cooperate with anyone and compete against anyone.

I created a value, presented it to the community, trying to show people how I can handle this position. I respect community's choice for CMO. But do you really think that I won't call help of itsik78 if I am elected? No, I will..
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2014, 09:10:16 AM »

Weren't coinabul found out to be scammers, who didn't have any stock and just waited until the next price rise to actually send anything. Which was often damaged or otherwise shoddy?

Thats why I think he should reveal his identity or send a vouch

True but they still have an online presence.
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2014, 07:42:12 PM »
This is a delusion. Current CMO is not my enemy and will not be. I am here to cooperate with anyone and compete against anyone.

Sorry - wasn't the intent.  I'm developing models for trust heuristics in the blockchain - so I think like a chess game, then see what we can come up with. 

Actually, reminded me of an idea I had a couple months ago - what if you allowed other MMC individuals to post their similar items for sale in smaller postings / shops on your site? 

Some users may have similar items / etc - but not enough capital and/or time to handle a full store?  Stock costs & location wouldn't mean you'd be directly competing.  An MMC trust ranking or something could be required for each "part-time distributor".

Pretty much every site relies on community feedback for sellers - your MMC trust level becomes a universally portable seller feedback from MMC site to MMC site...

Think ebay, bitmit, craigslist, localbitcoins...

Could eliminate the need for escrow on each site...
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2014, 08:36:44 PM »

Weren't coinabul found out to be scammers, who didn't have any stock and just waited until the next price rise to actually send anything. Which was often damaged or otherwise shoddy?

Thats why I think he should reveal his identity or send a vouch

True but they still have an online presence.

Yes, so do lots of scam sites, so what do you think about revealing your identity?
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Re: [ANN] Coaex - MemoryCoin Gold Exchange
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2014, 10:30:51 PM »

Weren't coinabul found out to be scammers, who didn't have any stock and just waited until the next price rise to actually send anything. Which was often damaged or otherwise shoddy?

Thats why I think he should reveal his identity or send a vouch

True but they still have an online presence.

Yes, so do lots of scam sites, so what do you think about revealing your identity?

With a little bit of research, you can find my real name, my address and my phone number. It's been on the internet for a long time and it's already posted on my CMO thread.
You just need to learn where to look, I guess.
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