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Offline seraphim

Voting identities
« on: January 10, 2014, 11:03:09 PM »

And now guess who the person compromising positions at an early stage was.

The address voting for himself at that time http://mmcvotes.com/address/MA9thFQTqWt6XoArbiCPyy4YDCuAJZXQYi
made some huge transactions http://www.chainbrowser.com/memorycoin/tx/452704c8006cc3df5add239e5ee2b4e3d70142fac44fc4b118467b7b33dfd8c7/
to Newmine's biggest supporter http://mmcvotes.com/address/MD3girn1fCpRWYbwrZNjix1J2Mh1yGbNcg

Thanks, MegaFarmer!

Anybody still feels the need to talk about rigged elections?
« Last Edit: January 11, 2014, 01:05:33 PM by seraphim »
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Offline isaacgoldbourne

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Re: Voting identities
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2014, 11:15:40 PM »
And now guess who that was.

The address voting for himself at that time http://mmcvotes.com/address/MA9thFQTqWt6XoArbiCPyy4YDCuAJZXQYi
made some huge transactions http://www.chainbrowser.com/memorycoin/tx/452704c8006cc3df5add239e5ee2b4e3d70142fac44fc4b118467b7b33dfd8c7/
to Newmine's biggest supporter http://mmcvotes.com/address/MD3girn1fCpRWYbwrZNjix1J2Mh1yGbNcg

Thanks, MegaFarmer!

Anybody still feels the need to talk about rigged elections?
Sorry can you please explain to me what you mean, I'm a little confused. What have we just found out?
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Offline seraphim

Re: Voting identities
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2014, 11:21:10 PM »
MegaFarmer, the guy talking the loudest about FreeTrade abusing his coins and fueling Newmines campaign, probably was the same guy who compromised the positions.
So FreeTrade used his power to keep the coins going to the community instead of MegaFarmer's wallet - long before Newmine started campaigning. Who wants to speculate on further connections between Newmine and MegaFarmer?  :)
« Last Edit: January 10, 2014, 11:25:02 PM by seraphim »
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Re: Voting identities
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 12:13:16 AM »

We all were defeated from block 1. This is what you don't get.

The fact that this issue exists is why your coin is so depressed. And this issue would exist regardless of my participation.

I don't feel defeated.
I'm unhappy that this continuing argument appears to be depressing the exchange rate. NewMine, you have made your point - there is no need to keep repeating it. Please stop.

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Re: Voting identities
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 01:26:50 AM »
MegaFarmer, the guy talking the loudest about FreeTrade abusing his coins and fueling Newmines campaign, probably was the same guy who compromised the positions.
So FreeTrade used his power to keep the coins going to the community instead of MegaFarmer's wallet - long before Newmine started campaigning. Who wants to speculate on further connections between Newmine and MegaFarmer?  :)

"Mr. Seraphim, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.  I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!"

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Re: Voting identities
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 01:28:11 AM »

We all were defeated from block 1. This is what you don't get.

The fact that this issue exists is why your coin is so depressed. And this issue would exist regardless of my participation.

I don't feel defeated.
I'm unhappy that this continuing argument appears to be depressing the exchange rate. NewMine, you have made your point - there is no need to keep repeating it. Please stop.

Yet here you are quoting me, repeating me, and continuing the argument.

Offline seraphim

Re: Voting identities
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 01:58:04 AM »
"Mr. Seraphim, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.  I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!"

Everything I said (but the last sentence) was backed by the data I provided before. You may not believe in what we tell you, but you have to believe in what the the blockchain tells everyone :)
At this point it's a proven fact that your biggest supporter - MegaFarmer - was the same, or tightly related to the person compromising some positions at an early stage.

Every other connection between you and him is pure speculation, but something that may be asked when you happened to appear out of nowhere after MegaFarmer's attempt to steal the coins was unsuccessful.
You shouldn't mind. You don't have reputation to lose, because you don't have any. Just get back into your hole.
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Re: Voting identities
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2014, 03:00:17 AM »
This is kind of sad that instead of a little transparency and diplomacy you guys fire back with another accusation of "vote manipulation". It basically looks like you are confirming that the current voting system is rotten to the core. I'm sure people must be rushing to buy and mine memorycoins now.

Are you currently looking into improving the voting system? Do you think there is improvement to be done on it (is it even possible) or you really think everything is well even though you are shooting back at each other accusation about vote manipulation?

Edit: Seraphim, look at how as an officer you treat people in your coin's community. Come on guys, how is it supposed to make people want to join if even you guys can't be courteous and calm.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2014, 03:02:51 AM by city19akro »

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Re: Voting identities
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2014, 03:20:53 AM »
I agree - this is heat and no lilght. closed.
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Offline seraphim

Re: Voting identities
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2014, 11:51:54 AM »
You're right. I'm sorry for (over-)reacting in my last post.
I had the idea MF could have been the one after some beer last night, and was shocked that a quick research on the blockchain confirmed that. A few more beer and Newmine's last response did the rest, and I'm truely sorry for losing my patience there.


No, I don't think the voting system is flawed. There has been this one attempt of manipulation (https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1635.0), but it only took 3 hours for the community to resolve the issue.
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