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[CHA] Collecting suggestions
« on: January 15, 2014, 09:42:45 AM »

Morning everyone.

Since I got re-elected as Charity award representative (see thread), I want to collect community suggestions.

I will payout each selected Charity with 1 BTC (or if they accept it, 3000 MMC).

The current CHA balance is 0.9 BTC and around 500 MMC.

Cheers
donSchoe
« Last Edit: January 23, 2014, 07:54:23 AM by FreeTrade »

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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2014, 12:36:47 PM »
Hey Don,
Use this site to find Bitcoin-friendly charities
http://bitcoin100.org/charities/

I already contacted a lot of them (that's how I got to Spices) but I'm sure you can get to some more.
I'd really prefer that they'll have their own MMC address (not even MVTEcha - Just a normal wallet) to receive funds to. It would be better for the coin, obviously.
But you already know that :)
Good luck!

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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2014, 12:48:19 PM »
I prefer to keep coins in-network as much as possible.  If we contact the charities, it may be fun to trade for services on their behalf instead of just giving them away for exchange.

E.g., horizontality may need translation / web design, and we could post a bounty for someone to help them.  Or, hire peace geeks to work with them.  Or, organize MMC members to order bulk food for sean's outpost, etc. instead of just donating...

Seems like it still helps out the charities.  Coins may still end up at exchange afterwards, but they go through at least one more community member first, right?

And, I'll always mention my favorite - BTC Oyate Project - we could try to get their attention.

Looking at itsik's list - Khan academy may also be good.  I think they promote personal finance education...new cryptos are gonna need a lot of that...
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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 01:40:18 PM »
any updates?

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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 04:56:39 PM »
We should find a nonprofit organization that collects old laptops and donates them to people, and have them install mmc wallets and miners on them first.

And car title and payday loan ads.

Still better than NSA tracking spyware...
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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2014, 07:03:48 AM »
Updates please.
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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 05:04:50 AM »
It's easy to increase popularity. Watch the world news and find a cause. The only issue right now is popularity. Look at what that did to bitcoin.
Donate to the next world distaster that comes up to easily get onto worldwide television. We need the voices of bloggers and journalists.
Do some demographics and figure that guerilla marketing is the only viable option.
Request MMC miner writers to allow a % of your shares to be sent to a donation address to aid certain causes.

Donate your shares to power volunteers on a team to create [email protected] or BOINC shares.

Freetrade, any ideas?
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 05:07:22 AM by Delinquency »

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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2014, 12:51:18 PM »
When there's no charity accepting MMC directly you could consider buying gold at coaex (stalemate may accept a discount for that purpose) to keep the coins out of exchanges for a while.
An example for a charity accepting gold is https://www.redcross.ch/de/gesundheit/augenmedizin/altgold-und-schmuck-spenden - 275 MMC enable them to do an eye cataract surgery.
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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2014, 01:35:52 PM »
Updates please.

Current CHA funds: 0.9 BTC and 10186.2299639 MMC. I've put the funds on hold as I'm watching the value going down. I still believe this coin is worth much more than the current market price therefore I'd like to hold and see how the markets develop. I've initially planned to make donations in 1 BTC batches, but considering the MMC/BTC market too thin for the MMC amount the Charity Award is holding the MMC and I'm considering other ways to donate.

There are two options mentioned currently, either dumping the MMC on the MMC/CNY market to exchange it to fiat without touching the BTC rate or to buy gold on Coaex. The gold-approach would limit my available charities too much to be honest. If there is anyone outthere who wants to invest BTC or LTC into MMC, please read this thread: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=2417.msg29740#msg29740



Updates please.

In addition, I got approached by emre requesting me to stop using the CHA address for voting as I dont own the CHA funds and it is unethical to abuse the funds to make an impact on election results. I don't agree with this statement on a full basis, but to avoid damaging the image of the Charity Award I decided to remove all votes done with the CHA address: http://mmcvotes.com/address/MVTEcha4La8HeNaewF4oaSFUwaRep8xEyR



It's easy to increase popularity. Watch the world news and find a cause. The only issue right now is popularity. Look at what that did to bitcoin.
Donate to the next world distaster that comes up to easily get onto worldwide television. We need the voices of bloggers and journalists.
Do some demographics and figure that guerilla marketing is the only viable option.
Actually I'm doing that and I'm in lose contact with the CMO department. As soon as I roll donations there will be news items available.



Request MMC miner writers to allow a % of your shares to be sent to a donation address to aid certain causes.
The voting address is MVTEcha4La8HeNaewF4oaSFUwaRep8xEyR and also available for charity donations. All funds addressed to that address go 100% into the charity award. I've already recived donations worth 3k+ MMC.



When there's no charity accepting MMC directly you could consider buying gold at coaex (stalemate may accept a discount for that purpose) to keep the coins out of exchanges for a while.
An example for a charity accepting gold is https://www.redcross.ch/de/gesundheit/augenmedizin/altgold-und-schmuck-spenden - 275 MMC enable them to do an eye cataract surgery.
If the BTC/MMC market stays thin and the prices are not rising in february I will consider this recommendation. Donating gold bought on Coaex is a good idea but not my favourite to be honest.

I'll keep you posted. Thanks for the suggestions.



If you read this thread the first time, you might want to read my initial posts about my charity award ideas: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=1879.0

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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 01:48:44 PM »
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Current CHA funds: 0.9 BTC and 10186.2299639 MMC.

your total received salary: 9706.1880474 MMC so far. add 3k+ MMC to that (donation) you should have at least 12k MMC.

what happened to 2k MMC? do I calculate something wrong here?

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Actually I'm doing that and I'm in lose contact with the CMO department. As soon as I roll donations there will be news items available.

CMO is the most active office right now, how exactly did you lost contact?

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In addition, I got approached by emre requesting me to stop using the CHA address for voting as I dont own the CHA funds and it is unethical to abuse the funds to make an impact on election results.UwaRep8xEyR

yes, this is how you should do it. pumping your cto account from cha grants was not the best decision you have made.

« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 01:54:06 PM by emre »

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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2014, 02:19:35 PM »
Hi emre, you seem to be in rage. What's up?

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Current CHA funds: 0.9 BTC and 10186.2299639 MMC.

your total received salary: 9706.1880474 MMC so far. add 3k+ MMC to that (donation) you should have at least 12k MMC.

what happened to 2k MMC? do I calculate something wrong here?
Read again: 10k + 1 BTC ~ 13k MMC. Looks good to me.

CMO is the most active office right now, how exactly did you lost contact?
Being in lose contact does not mean I lost contact.

yes, this is how you should do it. pumping your cto account from cha grants was not the best decision you have made.

I didnt pump my CTO account. I'm not even running for CTO. I used the CHA address to vote for my CTO address when I was not even elected as CHA. This vote only showed up recently because of the 10k MMC on the CHA address. After you pointed me to this misbehaviour I removed the votes on all departments. Are you really angry about a candidate recieving 10k votes? Your position is far from being in danger.

In addition from removing the votes I now also removed 10k MMC from the CHA address to avoid voting for empty positions. Any further questions?

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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2014, 02:24:11 PM »
THis sounds like a misunderstanding. I hope you guys don't have a falling out over it.
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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2014, 02:28:15 PM »
I think we should favour charities accepting MMC directly. I know there are two already - Spices and peace geeks. Both seem to be really good causes.
I don't think we should be trying to guess market timing with charity funds. Maybe you could donate the MMC to these charities and CMO could write an article about what's being done with the funds
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Re: [CHA] Collecting suggestions
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 02:32:14 PM »
I think we should favour charities accepting MMC directly. I know there are two already - Spices and peace geeks. Both seem to be really good causes.
I don't think we should be trying to guess market timing with charity funds. Maybe you could donate the MMC to these charities and CMO could write an article about what's being done with the funds
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I'm working on Sean Outpost as well... As they have pending funds.
He already replied to my email twice but it seems like they're not into free donations  :-\
Very strange people.

Anyway, I'll try a different approach with some charities - The vanity gen approach is way too complicated for them, so I'll just ask them to download the wallet and send me the address...
This should work better

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« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2014, 02:50:50 PM »
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Hi emre, you seem to be in rage. What's up?

Hi don,

you seem be to be doing nothing with your grants. (16 days already.) what's up?

I am just asking questions to our cha officer who is supposed to distribute his grants to charities.

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Read again: 10k + 1 BTC ~ 13k MMC. Looks good to me.

that's a misunderstanding, sorry.

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I used the CHA address to vote for my CTO address when I was not even elected as CHA.

checked the logs, vote transaction and your first election seems to be happened at the same day. what a coincidence.

anyways, I am not here to discuss this here right now.

We have cha grants for like ~10480 blocks. and nothing seems to be happened even though people who's elected as cha claim that they will distribute these grants.

This is the topic should be discussed.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 02:52:45 PM by emre »

 

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