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Offline toast

How do we get ICANN to "reserve" (acknowledge in public) .p2p for us?
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Following up this topic, have we paid ICANN for the .p2p? Or do we have plan to do so?
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Following up this topic, have we paid ICANN for the .p2p? Or do we have plan to do so?

No way, this is a strictly opt-out system. If someone spends the $100k to register the TLD we'll just pick another.
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No way, this is a strictly opt-out system. If someone spends the $100k to register the TLD we'll just pick another.

What does "strictly opt-out system" mean? I am not familiar with this. I thought since 2012 anyone can pay the fee and register a gTLD.

Do we always need to use a browser extension or proxy to surf .p2p, like what .bit is doing now?
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No way, this is a strictly opt-out system. If someone spends the $100k to register the TLD we'll just pick another.

What does "strictly opt-out system" mean? I am not familiar with this. I thought since 2012 anyone can pay the fee and register a gTLD.

Do we always need to use a browser extension or proxy to surf .p2p, like what .bit is doing now?

By "strictly opt-out" I mean "you will have to take steps to get it to work outside the normal system because the existing system wouldn't work for this". Even if we registered a gTLD (for $100,000...) we would not automatically be integrated into the existing DNS system because our architecture is totally different. DNS server providers would still have to choose whether to support it or not which they can already do without ICANN's approval.

You will need to use an extension or proxy for as long as the "official" (google, openDNS, etc) DNS providers do not support .p2p.
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I can imagine it is hard to integrate .p2p into the existing DNS system. Is it totally impossible? It will be a big plus if any browser out of box can get on to .p2p. I found this discussion from openDNS forum: http://forums.opendns.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=12233 Seems like it will never happen to integrate .bit or other alt DNS root into existing openDNS.

Another question, what if someone pay $100k to register .p2p 5 years later from today, do we need to move over to another one with so many domains already registered at that time? Maybe we should pay the fee and secure the spot?

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I can imagine it is hard to integrate .p2p into the existing DNS system. Is it totally impossible? It will be a big plus if any browser out of box can get on to .p2p. I found this discussion from openDNS forum: http://forums.opendns.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=12233 Seems like it will never happen to integrate .bit or other alt DNS root into existing openDNS.

Another question, what if someone pay $100k to register .p2p 5 years later from today, do we need to move over to another one with so many domains already registered at that time? Maybe we should pay the fee and secure the spot?

If it happens in 5 years hopefully the backlash would be extreme just like if someone tried to enforce Bitcoin trademark even though nobody owns it

If it happens before launch or while it is very small then its not a problem as .p2p vs some other domain is all client side

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I think the bottom line is to have a build-in web browser in Bitshares-DNS wallet.


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I think the bottom line is to have a build-in web browser in Bitshares-DNS wallet.


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Good idea - the wallet is already a webapp on the inside!
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Following up this topic, have we paid ICANN for the .p2p? Or do we have plan to do so?

No way, this is a strictly opt-out system. If someone spends the $100k to register the TLD we'll just pick another.

I don't know why but the sentence "we'll just pick another" don't like me at all...
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Following up this topic, have we paid ICANN for the .p2p? Or do we have plan to do so?

No way, this is a strictly opt-out system. If someone spends the $100k to register the TLD we'll just pick another.

I don't know why but the sentence "we'll just pick another" don't like me at all...

What happens if someone registers ".bit"? Probably people would fight it because it's been homesteaded, and it would likely get rejected by ICANN.
What would have happened if, right when namecoin was released and nobody knew about it, someone registered ".bit"? Probably they would have to switch.

If the stakeholders decide registering the name is appropriate, they can elect delegates who will direct their income towards a pool to register the name. But that only adds unnecessary ties to centralized entities. What would happen if someone tried to trademark "Bitcoin"? Does the bitcoin community need to trademark it first?
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I would like to see a normal web browser like Firefox that can simply switch between different types in the address bar.
Like, you want to enter a "normal" ICANN address? Just select it next to the address bar. Kind of like there's an icon on the left in the search bar where you can select which search engine to use. Instead have one to choose which DNS/protocol to use.

Wanna visit the "old school" ICANN web, you select that. Wanna visit some other "web", select that. And it will automatically lookup the right type.
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