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CoinSummit Videos (Summaries) - Inspiration
« on: March 30, 2014, 01:26:17 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iir5J6Z3Z1Q - Bitcoin Fireside Chat with Marc Andreessen and Balaji Srinivasa - Inspiration for what the requirements of different types of public ledgers could be and what apps would use them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUNddAqAI7U Bitcoin VC panel - investment opportunities in the Bitcoin space - 16:30 Red Hat mentioned as a needed equivalent for crypto second time (also somewhere in the first video). I can imagine a company that helps companies to set up their own public ledgers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZuve5mGLXU  37:20 Crowd Curity - a bug bounty finding platform

A few great hints here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ssGBnHiQyc  Except from the unmet swag of drinking bottled water every 5 seconds, worth watching in terms of III: 16:50,  29:55  32.00 35:10  39:25  42:40 43:30 44:48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV5ubkGQUes that's how disruption works imo on 18:35 other than that a lot of blabla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efDucLsn9Es  31:05  Guy from Zipzap about "software development kits"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLzAu2_BFbo 04:14 Maybe an event that is interesting for Charles?

I don't find these panels very enlightening in general. But they give you good inspiration and make us aware of narratives outside this forum which is important. I will ad more here which I find interesting.

Edited for Video 3, 4, 5, 6, 7

« Last Edit: April 01, 2014, 05:10:16 PM by delulo »

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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2014, 01:51:33 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iir5J6Z3Z1Q - Bitcoin Fireside Chat with Marc Andreessen and Balaji Srinivasa - Inspiration for what the requirements of different types of public ledgers could be and what apps would use them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUNddAqAI7U Bitcoin VC panel - investment opportunities in the Bitcoin space - 16:30 Red Hat mentioned as a needed equivalent for crypto second time (also somewhere in the first video). I can imagine a company that helps companies to set up their own public ledgers.

I don't find these panels very enlightening in general. But they give you good inspiration and make us aware of narratives outside this forum which is important. I will ad more here which I find interesting.

Great post... could we identify how to describe the 'Red Hat' of crypto? 
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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2014, 08:35:09 AM »
As I understand it they were looking for a go-to company that employs a large number of Bitcoin (but that might of course shift in the future) developers,  where you could buy support and at the same time sponsor the further development of bitcoin.

In that regard Invictus/Bitshares does indeed have a lot of similarities with Red Hat.
Maybe a similar setup could be conceived with a corporation focused branch of the office where corporate-support can be bought on a yearly basis and a experimental/testing Fedora-style part where new ideas are being worked out, tested and fostered by the community, before making them accessible for "Big business".
« Last Edit: March 30, 2014, 12:10:50 PM by JoeyD »

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2014, 06:06:10 PM »
As I understand it they were looking for a go-to company that employs a large number of Bitcoin (but that might of course shift in the future) developers,  where you could buy support and at the same time sponsor the further development of bitcoin.

In that regard Invictus/Bitshares does indeed have a lot of similarities with Red Hat.
Maybe a similar setup could be conceived with a corporation focused branch of the office where corporate-support can be bought on a yearly basis and a experimental/testing Fedora-style part where new ideas are being worked out, tested and fostered by the community, before making them accessible for "Big business".

Yes, this is exactly what BitShares Foundation does. This analogy needs to be all over the place.
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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2014, 07:35:17 PM »
As I understand it they were looking for a go-to company that employs a large number of Bitcoin (but that might of course shift in the future) developers,  where you could buy support and at the same time sponsor the further development of bitcoin.

In that regard Invictus/Bitshares does indeed have a lot of similarities with Red Hat.
Maybe a similar setup could be conceived with a corporation focused branch of the office where corporate-support can be bought on a yearly basis and a experimental/testing Fedora-style part where new ideas are being worked out, tested and fostered by the community, before making them accessible for "Big business".

Yes, this is exactly what BitShares Foundation does. This analogy needs to be all over the place.

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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2014, 07:55:14 PM »
As I understand it they were looking for a go-to company that employs a large number of Bitcoin (but that might of course shift in the future) developers,  where you could buy support and at the same time sponsor the further development of bitcoin.

In that regard Invictus/Bitshares does indeed have a lot of similarities with Red Hat.
Maybe a similar setup could be conceived with a corporation focused branch of the office where corporate-support can be bought on a yearly basis and a experimental/testing Fedora-style part where new ideas are being worked out, tested and fostered by the community, before making them accessible for "Big business".

Yes, this is exactly what BitShares Foundation does. This analogy needs to be all over the place.

But I would not promote it actively. That would come across as 'unhealthily self entitled'  (dont know a better expression).... Community members should through that hint in ounce in a while on different platforms or suggest it to some news company...
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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2014, 08:09:36 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iir5J6Z3Z1Q - Bitcoin Fireside Chat with Marc Andreessen and Balaji Srinivasa - Inspiration for what the requirements of different types of public ledgers could be and what apps would use them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUNddAqAI7U Bitcoin VC panel - investment opportunities in the Bitcoin space - 16:30 Red Hat mentioned as a needed equivalent for crypto second time (also somewhere in the first video). I can imagine a company that helps companies to set up their own public ledgers.

I don't find these panels very enlightening in general. But they give you good inspiration and make us aware of narratives outside this forum which is important. I will ad more here which I find interesting.

Great post... could we identify how to describe the 'Red Hat' of crypto?

Thanks,

Here is what I believe will happen in the next years: Big companies and start ups will want to make use of blockchain technology but do not want to buy in with the security issues, the dependence on the bitcoin foundation, the partly questionable reputation (drug trafficing, immense perceived unfair distribution; can be a surface for attack for competitors whether justified or not) of bitcoin. Different companies will have very different needs: Some companies need maximum trustlessness, some will need more efficiency (possibly millisecond transaction times, barely no costs for security). And example for the payment application would be: One "currency" for big transaction (buying a car) where it doesnt matter that much how long  the tx processing takes and what the fee is and one for micro transactions/tipping/buying a beer where a double spend attack on the payment for the beer wouldn't hurt that much. Also some will need more consulting on implementation and maintenance (security) of their blockchains, some will just need some advice on what blockchain type fits their purpose best and maybe some adjustment of that open source (POS) blockchain software.

I appreciate the trustee suggestion by bytemaster, not because I particularly like it (have to take a closer look still; it's all a trade of and in the end it will depend on the application the 'proof of x' is used for and on implementation details and on how it is sold/perceived), but because it shows that III could not only crowdfund various blockchain based services ('coins') but could also help companies enhance their transpareny and accountability and offer 'a store of different types of blockchains' which can be individualized if needed.
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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2014, 08:33:22 PM »
But I would not promote it actively. That would come across as 'unhealthily self entitled'  (dont know a better expression).... Community members should through that hint in ounce in a while on different platforms or suggest it to some news company...

Don't know if trying to model oneself after Red-Hat is a particularly bad thing. Personally I would have a hard time coming up with a better role-model.

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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2014, 09:28:59 PM »
But I would not promote it actively. That would come across as 'unhealthily self entitled'  (dont know a better expression).... Community members should through that hint in ounce in a while on different platforms or suggest it to some news company...

Don't know if trying to model oneself after Red-Hat is a particularly bad thing. Personally I would have a hard time coming up with a better role-model.

No, I didnt mean that it would be bad to model your company after Red Hat. I just said that III staff members should not publicly claim that analogy for III....

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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2014, 11:11:24 PM »
No, I didnt mean that it would be bad to model your company after Red Hat. I just said that III staff members should not publicly claim that analogy for III....

Ah ok, gotcha!

Thinking about it I agree, naming yourself the Red-Hat of crypto would indeed be bad. Although naming Red-Hat as an inspiration for III wouldn't be harmful, especially if it's actually true and III does use some concepts from Red-Hat.

What the hell, maybe even close ties with Red-Hat and help each other. How about III and Red-Hat cooperate and build a few DACs to help Red-Hats business? To me open-source companies and DACs seem to be a natural fit anyway. I would expect Red-Hat might be open to ideas on how to make their business more efficient.

Admittedly I can't come up with any DAC that would benefit Red-Hat or it's customers right now. Customer support/feature request DAC coupled to a bounty system and developers? It would have to be for things that require tracking or security outside of the reach of the company before it would make sense to develop a distributed consensus system for it. A decentralized security system where you could check if your pc has been compromised via a cryptographic proof of system soundness?

I'll stop now, I might be going too far off topic.

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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2014, 11:42:34 PM »
No, I didnt mean that it would be bad to model your company after Red Hat. I just said that III staff members should not publicly claim that analogy for III....

Ah ok, gotcha!

Thinking about it I agree, naming yourself the Red-Hat of crypto would indeed be bad. Although naming Red-Hat as an inspiration for III wouldn't be harmful, especially if it's actually true and III does use some concepts from Red-Hat.

What the hell, maybe even close ties with Red-Hat and help each other. How about III and Red-Hat cooperate and build a few DACs to help Red-Hats business? To me open-source companies and DACs seem to be a natural fit anyway. I would expect Red-Hat might be open to ideas on how to make their business more efficient.

Admittedly I can't come up with any DAC that would benefit Red-Hat or it's customers right now. Customer support/feature request DAC coupled to a bounty system and developers? It would have to be for things that require tracking or security outside of the reach of the company before it would make sense to develop a distributed consensus system for it. A decentralized security system where you could check if your pc has been compromised via a cryptographic proof of system soundness?

I'll stop now, I might be going too far off topic.
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Thinking about it I agree, naming yourself the Red-Hat of crypto would indeed be bad. Although naming Red-Hat as an inspiration for III wouldn't be harmful, especially if it's actually true and III does use some concepts from Red-Hat.
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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 01:02:42 AM »
A few great hints here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ssGBnHiQyc  Except from the unmet swag of drinking bottled water every 5 seconds, worth watching in terms of III: 16:50,  29:55  32.00 35:10  39:25  42:40 43:30 44:48

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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2014, 03:09:13 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV5ubkGQUes that's how disruption works imo on 18:35 other than that a lot of blabla

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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2014, 04:27:09 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efDucLsn9Es  31:05  Guy from Zipzap about "software development kits"

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Re: CoinSummit Videos - Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2014, 04:31:29 PM »
Maybe those guys that indirectly mentioned stuff III does in their talks but don't know III yet could be approached as advocates / connection makers!
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