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Bit Super Lab
« on: April 11, 2014, 03:49:31 PM »

After reading the DPOS whiter paper, I have an idea to form a super lab to join the competition of DPOS mining, because providing good service as a stable DPOS delegate is a challeging work, and could be very interesting and profitable.

Two goals:
1. Act as one of the 100 delegate mining nodes, and keep stable with high reputation, 100% online.
2. Testing DPOS network, reseach on all kinds of attack and cheating possibility. Find the flaw of other 99 mining nodes.

Any ideas, or anybody intent to collaborate?

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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 04:17:57 PM »
+1 would join this effort

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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2014, 04:37:46 PM »
+5% .. im in
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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2014, 01:20:52 AM »
This is exactly the benefit of DPOS... 100 highly reliable nodes makes the 'nodeshare' concept that BTC is facing unnecessary.

Big money to be made here by providing this service to the network.
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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2014, 05:45:06 AM »
This is exactly the benefit of DPOS... 100 highly reliable nodes makes the 'nodeshare' concept that BTC is facing unnecessary.

Big money to be made here by providing this service to the network.

Yes, that's it. And BM has given a comprehensive summary of the requirements as following:
Becoming a delegate requires:

1) Ability to run provided software on a low-latency connection 
2) Ability to setup a secure linux environment
3) Ability to get 1% of the vote...
      a) unique geographic location
      b) trusted member of the community
      c) 1000 BIPS  (a couple of PTS or AGS) registration fee... (keep out spammers)

Remaining a delegate requires:
      a) low latency, 99.9% uptime
      b) non-discrimination of valid transactions
      c) better reputation than all but the top 99

How to earn the best reputation:
      a) Provide the most additional services for your pay.
            - seed node supporting thousands of connections
            - block explorers
            - free web wallets
            - high speed blockchain downloads
      b) Provide the most proof as to your transparency
     

You get the idea... who ever is willing to provide the most service for their pay will likely win over someone attempting to provide the least service. 
 
     

As I understand, to prevent from DDOS for 99.9% uptime, the server might need to be distributed around the world, have 24 hour clock team to operate, high quality mining software etc.

Brainstorm might be needed first.
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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2014, 06:35:30 AM »
+5% would like to help


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Offline JoeyD

Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2014, 12:20:16 PM »
The requirements exclude me personally. While I might have the bare minimum linux-skills to get the basics up and running, I have health problems that make it impossible for me to guarantee 100% up-time and responsiveness in case of trouble.

Should initial costs be to high, perhaps this could be crowdfunded/sourced or setup similarly to mining pools where a team maintains a couple of servers, like Amazon cloud-servers or similar, and members of  those pools share the costs and parts of the profits.

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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2014, 02:29:58 PM »
The requirements exclude me personally. While I might have the bare minimum linux-skills to get the basics up and running, I have health problems that make it impossible for me to guarantee 100% up-time and responsiveness in case of trouble.

Should initial costs be to high, perhaps this could be crowdfunded/sourced or setup similarly to mining pools where a team maintains a couple of servers, like Amazon cloud-servers or similar, and members of  those pools share the costs and parts of the profits.

That is why we need to collaborate to form such a super lab!

I would like researches of this lab to be open, free to share, and high quality peer review, which could form an technical advantage as a team and be easy to fork, the other key points are depend on operation of mining servers

I'm not sure whether there are ways to securely share delegate secret key between multiple operators, may be we can find ways. Otherwise, we can also easily to fork to multiple delegate operators using similar strategy from DPOS Super Lab, but in this case, keeping it 100% up-time could be a problem.
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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2014, 03:25:13 PM »
U do not need 100%. 99.9% is good enough.  Also you can be down for 5 to 10 minutes between turns.

Remember you just need to be in the top 100 which is something anyone with a DO node could do.  Once compition heats up then you have to raise the bar.


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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2014, 06:06:29 PM »
I would like to donate a domain name as a start:

http://www.bitsuperlab.com

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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2014, 03:21:58 AM »
 +5% This is something I'd definitely be more than interested in. Great idea  +5%

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« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2014, 12:08:15 PM »
 +5% I'm in  :)

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Re: DPOS Super Lab
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2014, 03:12:34 AM »
 +5%   I will definitely support the Lab with all my XTS. Go,Go,Go!
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