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Offline ebit

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Today .I made a too bad mistake
« on: April 20, 2014, 04:09:20 PM »

Then I was waching movie, and i found ags was suit to donate.
So I will donate 9.99 to ags.
But I donated 9.99 to me ,and the rest of pts were donated to ags.

I was sorry to friends who donated today . Very sorry.

日期: 2014-4-20 21:24
到: PaNGEL PaNGELmZgzRQCKeEKM6ifgTqNkC4ceiAWw
支出: -6120.00 PTS
交易费: -0.01 PTS
净额: -6120.01 PTS
交易ID: 741a26b31a65d6b4e54bddbf0e5d456b147d94d63ded6895a6274d4dc4dc0186
« Last Edit: April 20, 2014, 04:22:36 PM by ebit »

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2014, 04:11:20 PM »

Wow, 6800+ pts donated today.  Man, I feel sorry for you.  Cheers.
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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2014, 04:13:08 PM »
Sry about your suffering..

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2014, 04:14:58 PM »
stan,please.

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2014, 04:17:46 PM »
This is a challenging case, don't worry to much, guy, the community might help you.
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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2014, 04:21:59 PM »
Damn... what a sticky situation.



The biggest problem I see is that if Stan returns the PTS then then it changes the definition of AGS to include a special case which probably people who write custom blockchain scanners would ignore or not know about (and we would have to rewrite the existing ones).

A void agreement cannot be enforced by law.
Agreements made without consideration is void.
This is one of the basic rules of Contract law.
So,ebit has the right to void the contract of donating 6000 to the AGS .And 3i has the legal and moral obligation to comply.

The whole point is that there are no contracts involved at any stage (though IANAL so I don't know, Do you make a contract when you donate to the salvation army bell ringer guy in front of the store?).
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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2014, 04:42:29 PM »
I strongly recommend 3I to return the 6000 PTS considering the circumstances.
I feel sorry for it and believe him make a bad mistake ,and but it is impossible for III to return PTS to him.  if III reture PTS to him , verybody who donate in high volume day can requirment III return the PTS or BTC.
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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2014, 04:50:33 PM »
不好意思,我不会英语。
我希望i3至少能退回5500个PTS给当事人,如果i3觉得难处理,那么我提议PTSer和AGSer投票来决定。
我相信i3会处理好这次意外,我会一如继往得支持BTS!谢谢!
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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2014, 05:27:56 PM »
I strongly recommend 3I to return the 6000 PTS considering the circumstances.
I feel sorry for it and believe him make a bad mistake ,and but it is impossible for III to return PTS to him.  if III reture PTS to him , verybody who donate in high volume day can requirment III return the PTS or BTC.

it is  a special case . our community as well as III should be able to resolve it. it is obviously a mistake by miss using the donation script

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2014, 06:09:54 PM »
I don't think it can be returned, it'll be a big mess to allow special cases. Though due to the abnormally large donation, I guess 3i can find other ways of rewarding him.

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2014, 07:47:06 PM »
It is not technically possible to return AGS.  III has no obligation to do anything about this, but since use of donations is entirely at III discretion, they could take the top 1120 PTS or so of the donation and distribute it to today's donors (including ebit) to decrease their losses.

I'm not saying they should do anything, but if they decide they should, this is the approach I would recommend.

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2014, 08:08:54 PM »
My opinion would be to return the PTS to the guy and call it the day...

Today's PTS donators won't be diluted.

Apparantly that was an honest mistake. Everybody make mistakes...The community should show their support!

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2014, 08:16:45 PM »
My opinion would be to return the PTS to the guy and call it the day...

Today's PTS donators won't be diluted.

Apparantly that was an honest mistake. Everybody make mistakes...The community should show their support!

That won't work.  His donation is in the blockchain, and the blockchain can't be revised, so he has the AGS already, and the AGS cannot be returned.  If his PTS is returned, he just gets almost 5000 AGS for free.  Since the AGS can't be returned, my recommendation is to send back part of his PTS such that he gets his AGS at closer to the average rate.

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2014, 08:31:10 PM »
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Since the AGS can't be returned, my recommendation is to send back part of his PTS such that he gets his AGS at closer to the average rate.

That is fair.

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Re: Today .I made a too bad mistake
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2014, 08:41:31 PM »
You also nees to send some pts to the other donators of that day to keep it fair
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