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Build Faster Miners People :)
« on: November 12, 2013, 01:17:12 AM »

This is my call for all of you very smart developers to dig into the proof of work and enhance it.   There is a huge bounty in terms of extra PTS that could be earned if you develop a faster miner.

I have proven it can be done and made my faster miner available through my pool, but the proof of work needs as many eyes as possible on it and so I am not going to open source my efforts until someone can match them. 

The only way to make closed-source miners irrelevant is if the open source versions are just as good.  So I will open source my miner once someone else is able to match it in speed, in the mean time it it will be used to give my pool an advantage and thus earn Invictus Innovations extra income necessary to fund our development efforts.

For the record:  the mining algorithm has been developed and enhanced entirely in the open.   We paid FreeTrade to build the best he could do.  We have no more advantage than anyone else at implementing fast miners.

But just for fun, I will add a 1 BTC bounty paid to anyone that can build a faster miner than mine EVERYONE ELSE and keep it that way for over a week.   You must submit your miner as a patch to the  ProtoShares-Qt client so it is easy to distribute for all! 

Thanks! 

You may submit binaries while in the candidate phase, but must open source prior to bounty being paid.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 08:24:11 PM by bytemaster »
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2013, 01:26:00 AM »
This is my call for all of your very smart developers to dig into the proof of work and enhance it.   There is a huge bounty in terms of extra PTS that could be earned if you develop a faster miner.

I have proven it can be done and made my faster miner available through my pool, but the proof of work needs as many eyes as possible on it and so I am not going to open source my efforts until someone can match them. 

The only way to make closed-source miners irrelevant is if the open source versions are just as good.  So I will open source my miner once someone else is able to match it in speed, in the mean time it it will be used to give my pool an advantage and thus earn Invictus Innovations extra income necessary to fund our development efforts.

For the record:  the mining algorithm has been developed and enhanced entirely in the open.   We paid FreeTrade to build the best he could do.  We have no more advantage than anyone else at implementing fast miners.

But just for fun, I will add a 1 BTC bounty paid to anyone that can build a faster miner than mine and keep it that way for over a week.   You must submit your miner as a patch to the  ProtoShares-Qt client so it is easy to distribute for all! 

Thanks!

Your on..  Speeds please?
« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 01:32:15 AM by bytemaster »
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2013, 01:30:17 AM »
This is my call for all of your very smart developers to dig into the proof of work and enhance it.   There is a huge bounty in terms of extra PTS that could be earned if you develop a faster miner.

I have proven it can be done and made my faster miner available through my pool, but the proof of work needs as many eyes as possible on it and so I am not going to open source my efforts until someone can match them. 

The only way to make closed-source miners irrelevant is if the open source versions are just as good.  So I will open source my miner once someone else is able to match it in speed, in the mean time it it will be used to give my pool an advantage and thus earn Invictus Innovations extra income necessary to fund our development efforts.

For the record:  the mining algorithm has been developed and enhanced entirely in the open.   We paid FreeTrade to build the best he could do.  We have no more advantage than anyone else at implementing fast miners.

But just for fun, I will add a 1 BTC bounty paid to anyone that can build a faster miner than mine and keep it that way for over a week.   You must submit your miner as a patch to the  ProtoShares-Qt client so it is easy to distribute for all! 

Thanks!

Your on..  Speeds please?

See the Coyote Miner / Pool thread for the latest on my speeds... I am getting 43 HPM on an 3.4Ghz i7 iMac.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 01:32:27 AM by bytemaster »
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2013, 01:49:59 AM »
This is my call for all of your very smart developers to dig into the proof of work and enhance it.   There is a huge bounty in terms of extra PTS that could be earned if you develop a faster miner.

I have proven it can be done and made my faster miner available through my pool, but the proof of work needs as many eyes as possible on it and so I am not going to open source my efforts until someone can match them. 

The only way to make closed-source miners irrelevant is if the open source versions are just as good.  So I will open source my miner once someone else is able to match it in speed, in the mean time it it will be used to give my pool an advantage and thus earn Invictus Innovations extra income necessary to fund our development efforts.

For the record:  the mining algorithm has been developed and enhanced entirely in the open.   We paid FreeTrade to build the best he could do.  We have no more advantage than anyone else at implementing fast miners.

But just for fun, I will add a 1 BTC bounty paid to anyone that can build a faster miner than mine and keep it that way for over a week.   You must submit your miner as a patch to the  ProtoShares-Qt client so it is easy to distribute for all! 

Thanks!

Your on..  Speeds please?

See the Coyote Miner / Pool thread for the latest on my speeds... I am getting 43 HPM on an 3.4Ghz i7 iMac.

Ohh mannn.  your going to loose that BTC real quick once I've finished updating my servers.  One of them has 4x Xeon 3.3.  If the thread is set on 8 then it wont utilize all.  I will post here once I've messed with it.
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2013, 02:15:39 AM »
This is my call for all of your very smart developers to dig into the proof of work and enhance it.   There is a huge bounty in terms of extra PTS that could be earned if you develop a faster miner.

I have proven it can be done and made my faster miner available through my pool, but the proof of work needs as many eyes as possible on it and so I am not going to open source my efforts until someone can match them. 

The only way to make closed-source miners irrelevant is if the open source versions are just as good.  So I will open source my miner once someone else is able to match it in speed, in the mean time it it will be used to give my pool an advantage and thus earn Invictus Innovations extra income necessary to fund our development efforts.

For the record:  the mining algorithm has been developed and enhanced entirely in the open.   We paid FreeTrade to build the best he could do.  We have no more advantage than anyone else at implementing fast miners.

But just for fun, I will add a 1 BTC bounty paid to anyone that can build a faster miner than mine and keep it that way for over a week.   You must submit your miner as a patch to the  ProtoShares-Qt client so it is easy to distribute for all! 

Thanks!

Your on..  Speeds please?

See the Coyote Miner / Pool thread for the latest on my speeds... I am getting 43 HPM on an 3.4Ghz i7 iMac.

Ohh mannn.  your going to loose that BTC real quick once I've finished updating my servers.  One of them has 4x Xeon 3.3.  If the thread is set on 8 then it wont utilize all.  I will post here once I've messed with it.

This is not for your hardware, this is for comparing different algorithms on the same hardware.  So you would have to provide a binary that gave me more HPM on my machine than my own miner does.
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2013, 04:08:59 AM »

But just for fun, I will add a 1 BTC bounty paid to anyone that can build a faster miner than mine EVERYONE ELSE and keep it that way for over a week.   You must submit your miner as a patch to the  ProtoShares-Qt client so it is easy to distribute for all! 

Why you're requesting to submit miner code for pts-qt? I think its better to have standalone miner
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2013, 04:19:41 AM »
Hmm... I do have an improved miner with only a few lines changed and ~20% more HPM.
Maybe try this bounty later, after I am paid the 1BTC for fixing crash (I am still waiting for that 1BTC :P)

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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2013, 04:22:24 AM »
Hmm... I do have an improved miner with only a few lines changed and ~20% more HPM.
Maybe try this bounty later, after I am paid the 1BTC for fixing crash (I am still waiting for that 1BTC :P)

Ok.. I was waiting on bitstamp withdraw to pay your bounty... coming now.

20% more than my pool miner?
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2013, 04:56:27 AM »
Hmm... I do have an improved miner with only a few lines changed and ~20% more HPM.
Maybe try this bounty later, after I am paid the 1BTC for fixing crash (I am still waiting for that 1BTC :P)

Ok.. I was waiting on bitstamp withdraw to pay your bounty... coming now.

20% more than my pool miner?

Got the 1BTC, thank you!

No, it is just 20% more than the original pts-miner. But that's just a few line changes within a few minutes. I just wanted to show that there is much room to make improvements on the miner.

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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2013, 05:06:22 AM »
Hmm... I do have an improved miner with only a few lines changed and ~20% more HPM.
Maybe try this bounty later, after I am paid the 1BTC for fixing crash (I am still waiting for that 1BTC :P)

Ok.. I was waiting on bitstamp withdraw to pay your bounty... coming now.

20% more than my pool miner?

Got the 1BTC, thank you!

No, it is just 20% more than the original pts-miner. But that's just a few line changes within a few minutes. I just wanted to show that there is much room to make improvements on the miner.

For the record, I spent more time implementing the getwork API than I did optimizing the code to get the 2-3x gains... low hanging fruit people...
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2013, 05:33:17 AM »
See the Coyote Miner / Pool thread for the latest on my speeds... I am getting 43 HPM on an 3.4Ghz i7 iMac.

Can we clarify if we're talking hashes per minute or collisions per minute?

For competing algorithms we absolutely should be talking collisions per minute. I can do a lot of hashes so long as I don't have to find any collisions ;)
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2013, 07:50:14 AM »
See the Coyote Miner / Pool thread for the latest on my speeds... I am getting 43 HPM on an 3.4Ghz i7 iMac.

Can we clarify if we're talking hashes per minute or collisions per minute?

For competing algorithms we absolutely should be talking collisions per minute. I can do a lot of hashes so long as I don't have to find any collisions ;)

Sure, we can opt for collisions per minute, but what we really want is solutions per minute to blocks below difficulty X.
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2013, 06:53:29 PM »
I'm testing on a 2.0 GHz single core VPN.
So yeah.  I'm doing pretty well I'd say.


The default setup is ~2 collisions/min and requires 50% more memory.
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2013, 08:38:50 PM »
Made a few more tweaks.



Averaging ~6 cpm per GHz.
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Re: 1 BTC Bounty - Build Faster Miners People :)
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2013, 08:45:52 PM »

But just for fun, I will add a 1 BTC bounty paid to anyone that can build a faster miner than mine EVERYONE ELSE and keep it that way for over a week.   You must submit your miner as a patch to the  ProtoShares-Qt client so it is easy to distribute for all! 

Why you're requesting to submit miner code for pts-qt? I think its better to have standalone miner

Agree, better is optimized standalone miner which can mine at pool and solo using getwork/getworktemplate from the wallet.

 

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