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Offline sfinder

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看了BM最新的帖子,我有上当受骗的感觉。他意图改变bitsharesX的总股量。在他提出的Targeted Growth模式下,初期PTS/AGS投资者将由目前100%的持股降到20%,其它80%将分给前100的代表。已经有老外在喷他的这个意图了。当然这个意图能很快扩大BTS影响,把代表变相为pow币的矿工,但对初期投资者好像很不地道。

The maximum share supply is dictated by the largest power of 10 less than 2^63 which is 1 Quadrillian.   1,000,000,000,000,000
The initial share supply was selected to be 10,000,000,000,000 in satoshies... 1% of the maximum supply.
The initial share precision was selected to be 1,000,000.

This makes representation of the initial share supply to be:

10,000,000.000000 or 10 million

There are several potential dilution strategies:
1) Deflation (delegates paid a fraction of fees)
2) Steady State (delegates paid 100% of fees)
3) Steady Pay (minimal dilution) (delegates receive pay equal to the minimum transaction fees in a full block regardless of actual transaction fees.
4) Targeted Growth  (delegates paid X% of the difference between current shares and maximum shares at any given point in time.

Under the Targeted Growth model I would suggest that the Initial Shares equal 20% of the Maximum Shares so that AGS/PTS holders are never diluted beyond 20%. 

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Initial Share Supply          200,000,000.000000
Maximum Share Supply        1,000,000,000.000000
First Year Delegate Pay:      160,000,000.000000  (~1,600,000 per delegate on average (0.44%))
End First Year Total Supply   360,000,000.000000
Second Year Delegate Pay:     128,000,000.000000  (~1,280,000 per delegate on average (0.26%))
End Second Year Total Supply  488,000,000.000000

After 10 years the supply will be 860,000,000.00000

Under these plans, the price of a "share" when the market cap equals bitcoin would be ~5% of bitcoins share price or less.  We can adjust the precision as necessary.  I could see starting out with 20 billion and having 4 decimal places, this would cause the shares to be priced around $1 at bitcoins market cap.   

These are just ideas.
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如果要这样搞可以,把AGSER的钱退回来,没人陪他玩了.毛没出一根,搞这搞哪.别TMD的再捐了行吗.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2014, 11:44:02 PM by cdryan »

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These are just ideas.
right? just ideas.

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回头想了想其实也不是没有道理,因为BTSX的数量需要销毁的,也就是越来越少,每次交易要销毁90%,如果这样平均分给PTS与AGS的持有者,代表也一样,那么就可能出现一种情况,因为代表占的份额不是很多,那么BTSX的流通数量将会越来越少,虽然价格高了,但是同时也限制的流通量,那么对整个市场恐怕打击不小。如果代表拥有大部分BTSX,在适当的时候会放量来可以解决流通量的问题。换句话说BM可能是想加大代表的影响力以稳固整个BTSX体系的运作。
但是因为事前已经说好了,如果这样突然该规则,这绝对是个愚蠢的做法,这样做只会自毁家门,让投资者信心大跌,而PTS的价格也与投资者的信心挂钩的,接下去可想而知,如果3I想然BTSX难产的话可以一试。
其实与其增加BTSX的数量分来增大代表的影响,倒不如考虑增加代表的数量,代表数量增多,从另一角度看代表所占BTSX的比例也会相应增加,影响也会增大,而此时BTSX数量仍然不变。
« Last Edit: June 23, 2014, 12:23:10 AM by 00091lacer »

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bm脑袋出现幻觉也不是第一次了,难道大家还没习惯么……

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摇摇欲坠的bts,刚有起色莫非又要大起大伏了。代表的利益确实重要,要给足利益人家才能干事情,但是 你3i通过捐款搞了那么多钱,就不能分给代表们。还要来压榨我们普通老百姓的钱。
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我感觉3i不可以随便改,任何约定俗成的改动都需要通过社区共识
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中国教育书店合作将20%收入捐献给贫困山区学生。
Cooperating with China Education Bookstore and will donate 20% of delegate income to the poor students

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这是肯定的,他现在提出来 就是希望 社区有人能同意他的做法。
有人同意 他就可以实施了
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我的理解是并非分给代表80%,而是80%的股份在未来十年内发完,而不是一次发完。
这样配合系统价值的增长,未必是坏事。
100%的份额仍然是分配给PTS/AGS持有者的。
大家仔细看看。
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其实,他提出的第一版的思路 是最好的,红利机制有多好。虽然当初就说pts只有10%,但是pts价格还是一路上涨,因为大家知道bts越早得到 产生的红利越多。
后来3i为了捞钱,直接把pts和ags提高到50%,说穿了 就是变相的卖他们的bts了(当时一根毛都没搞出来的东西,就可以卖了)。等到大家捐完其实bts已经卖完了。
他们现在又出这政策,其实就是想卖完了 他们还想卖,那只有把卖给大家的bts抢过来,然后再卖给别人。
« Last Edit: June 23, 2014, 12:41:41 AM by zhao150 »
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希望 log大神,出面辟谣吧,告诉大家 真相。
如果真像楼主说的那样,必然掀起腥风血雨。
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跟着他的早期投资者还没得到什么的情况下,还要让他们缩水账面资产,我不觉得他有任何底气实施这样的方案。

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凭什么在未来慢慢分发?货币的时间价值大家不懂是白痴?看来是对自己的产品没信心了,又想着法子绑大家玩下去?一个钱包死活搞不出来,还有脸继续榨干前期投资者的利益,3I这是作死的节奏

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发行曲线与系统价值增长速度匹配最好。全部都发了 其实也是很危险的,
相当于发行后就极度通涨。就算系统牛逼 每个主货币的价值也堪忧。
其实这方法可以,有效狙击一波流。那些准备出了bts就卖了的人会比较着急。
这也是一个激励后来者的方式,后来者购入bts动力也很大 因为利息很高。
否则 后来者会觉得是接盘,一次分完 必然是巨大的抛压。
这个策略其实有利于长期发展,对打算捞一笔就走的人来说不好。

如果我的理解没错,我倒是基本认同这个改变。
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