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Offline tonyk

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# of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« on: June 23, 2014, 04:31:29 PM »

Do you think the sudden surge of trolls and/or generally negative posts is result of Bitshares reaching a critical point in its development(which would be good) or something else(possibly bad)?
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2014, 04:37:16 PM »
+5% for critical point ..
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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2014, 05:16:32 PM »
obvious it is a good sign  ;)
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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 05:28:30 PM »
Yhea .. market manipulation .. keep your pockets ready and fille up :)
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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2014, 06:07:02 PM »
Most of them seems like gambling chinese who put all their savings into BitShares. Does anyone want to update the rest of us on what is going on in the Chinese BitShares community? :D

On a logical note, the PTS price was rising in anticipation of BitShares X launch, but the momentum failed as they are obviously having technical difficulties, and the resulting minor crash produced fear, uncertainty and doubt. Nothing more mysterious than that really. Only the psychological reaction of the Chinese has me curious.
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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2014, 06:29:38 PM »
>>Only the psychological reaction of the Chinese has me curious.
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he white man has trouble understanding the Chinese way of thinking…hell he hardly understands mine, and I am almost white :)
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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2014, 06:58:06 PM »
Only the psychological reaction of the Chinese has me curious.

I think it's just the Chinese mutiny on the Bitshares ship.

The Western mutiny already took place a few months ago, they are very short term minded, if you tell them 'Ides of March' and don't deliver by 'Ides of April' they lose interest, (I think if you look back you'll see a lot of Western guys complaining about delays around that time.) We are very short-term focused.

This is shown by BTC/PTS trading volume +- $2800 today.

The Chinese I think on average are more intelligent, realistic and long term/future focused but at this point even their patience is being tested/reaching breaking point given the delays/poor marketing & communication.

CNY/PTS volume is still much higher, $28 0000+ today! (Unless BTC38 volume numbers are dubious, I think it's pretty epic that Chinese volume is 10x higher, that says a lot about their long term vision and appreciation of Bitshares imo.)


I know BM, Toast & the team are really going above and beyond in terms of work and development & it looks like they've got a great team together & as far as I can tell, everything is coming together for DPOS and BTSXT so the future looks bright, but I think shareholder frustration is still very natural and to be expected when there are delays in a fast moving industry and your money is tied up in BTS X or AGS having worked off & made your investment decisions based off the timelines investors were presented with earlier in the year.

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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2014, 07:27:13 PM »
The only product 3I has is the bitshares.org website (It's 6.0 now ? lol)

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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2014, 07:28:24 PM »
anyone who did not think there would be some phase of staring into the abyss and eating glass did not listen carefully enough to elon musk ;)
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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2014, 11:17:03 PM »
Yhea .. market manipulation .. keep your pockets ready and fille up :)

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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2014, 01:49:13 AM »
>>Only the psychological reaction of the Chinese has me curious.
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he white man has trouble understanding the Chinese way of thinking…hell he hardly understands mine, and I am almost white :)

Judging from the post count the chinese boards are bulging with opinions though. Perhaps a liason who speaks both languages and knows both worlds would be a good one. Someone who makes some cross posts between both boards, someone who could tell me what they are talking about, and tell them what I am talking about. Bounty worthy IMHO.

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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 02:12:59 AM »

Judging from the post count the chinese boards are bulging with opinions though. Perhaps a liason who speaks both languages and knows both worlds would be a good one. Someone who makes some cross posts between both boards, someone who could tell me what they are talking about, and tell them what I am talking about. Bounty worthy IMHO.

 +5%

On another note, personally I think this is the perfect entry point for PTS when even the Chinese market has become negative.

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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2014, 06:47:25 AM »
I agree with CLains. Most of the recent complainers seem to be Chinese folks. For a lot of us, the last few weeks have seen a surge in confidence and renewal of the faith. We are getting closer and I'm more excited than ever. Historic buying opportunity for PTS and AGS donations.

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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2014, 09:30:21 AM »
We are getting closer and I'm more excited than ever. Historic buying opportunity for PTS and AGS donations.

absolutely agreed :)
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Re: # of trolls – a good or a bad sign.
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2014, 08:20:50 PM »
Can't tell if serious or trolling.


For anyone stupid enough to take this seriously: ask yourselves, if NEXT WEEK there started to be a lot of negative posts in BITCOINTALK about BITCOIN, would that mean we were more likely to be:
1. in a world that contains a new "bad sign" for Bitcoin.
2. in a world that contains a new "good sign" for Bitcoin.

Then explain how that would be different for Bitshares, and no, "because whichever one I own must be doing great", does not count.

 

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