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Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« on: June 25, 2014, 05:56:26 PM »

Used to be pretty heavily involved with Bitshares since I mined the first Protoshares block. I since started my own project called http://storj.io/, which focuses on decentralized storage. Bytemaster and I had a discussion or two about how awesome this would be a long time ago. If I remember correctly Bytemaster was working on this concept before Bitshares, and you can see some of his code here: https://github.com/bytemaster/tornet.

Just wanted to start discussion of ways that Storj and Bitshares can work together.

I'm most curious about using Transactions as Proof-of-Stake system for one of our blockchains.
Also I think we could figure out a pretty solid DAC using Storj and Bitshares tech.

If you want to learn some more about Storj there are some good resources:
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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2014, 06:07:58 PM »
Very nice to see you here! I think it would be awesome if Storj actually become part of the toolkit. Once you have storage you could do DACs whose data lives in Storj

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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2014, 06:12:48 PM »
very interesting...

what are your differences with maidsafe project?
Have you think about to make an IPO using Bithares? (like maidsafe used mastercoin) of course with bytemaster sugestion's to make it succesfull not like the ipo-maidsafe-joke...
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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 07:18:48 PM »
Yep.  We're fighting to some devs over here.  Glad to see an early supporter returning for when game time happens. :)

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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2014, 08:35:14 PM »
very interesting...

what are your differences with maidsafe project?
Have you think about to make an IPO using Bithares? (like maidsafe used mastercoin) of course with bytemaster sugestion's to make it succesfull not like the ipo-maidsafe-joke...
I think we just decided to go to Counterparty, we plan on doing the crowdsale next month. Counterparty looks like the most polished platform for that so far. We plan to have more blockchains and tokens in the future, so perhaps we could at some point.

As far as Maidsafe, like you said there crowdsale was a bit of a disaster. Their technology however is coming along quite nicely from what I've seen. We build our tech on the blockchain, whereas they have their own flavor of P2P. If their tech pans out we already have plans to integrate them. Storj builds apps and protocols, we can play nicely with everyone.

Well if you send a transaction to store the metadata for a file in the blockchain. We could just eliminate the need for mining if we used Bytemaster's system, and it would work perfectly.

As far as devs if we could find some common technologies (like Transactions as Proof-of-Stake) that we both need, Storj would be happy to put some devs and resources towards it.

Offline luckybit

Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2014, 11:59:51 PM »
Used to be pretty heavily involved with Bitshares since I mined the first Protoshares block. I since started my own project called http://storj.io/, which focuses on decentralized storage. Bytemaster and I had a discussion or two about how awesome this would be a long time ago. If I remember correctly Bytemaster was working on this concept before Bitshares, and you can see some of his code here: https://github.com/bytemaster/tornet.

Just wanted to start discussion of ways that Storj and Bitshares can work together.

I'm most curious about using Transactions as Proof-of-Stake system for one of our blockchains.
Also I think we could figure out a pretty solid DAC using Storj and Bitshares tech.

If you want to learn some more about Storj there are some good resources:
Website
Pitch Deck
Forum
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I'm sure everyone knows what I'm gonna say but how about a promise of a future Sharedrop to Storjcoin holders? That might light a fire.

It can't come from I3, but from alternative DAC developers.

By the way Super3 I remember you from the earliest days of mining Protoshares. You were the guy who actually leveled the playing field.
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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2014, 12:04:46 AM »
Very nice to see you here! I think it would be awesome if Storj actually become part of the toolkit. Once you have storage you could do DACs whose data lives in Storj

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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2014, 01:00:25 AM »
I think it would be awesome if Storj actually become part of the toolkit. Once you have storage you could do DACs whose data lives in Storj

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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2014, 01:22:00 AM »
Used to be pretty heavily involved with Bitshares since I mined the first Protoshares block. I since started my own project called http://storj.io/, which focuses on decentralized storage. Bytemaster and I had a discussion or two about how awesome this would be a long time ago. If I remember correctly Bytemaster was working on this concept before Bitshares, and you can see some of his code here: https://github.com/bytemaster/tornet.

Just wanted to start discussion of ways that Storj and Bitshares can work together.

I'm most curious about using Transactions as Proof-of-Stake system for one of our blockchains.
Also I think we could figure out a pretty solid DAC using Storj and Bitshares tech.

If you want to learn some more about Storj there are some good resources:
Website
Pitch Deck
Forum
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I'm sure everyone knows what I'm gonna say but how about a promise of a future Sharedrop to Storjcoin holders? That might light a fire.

It can't come from I3, but from alternative DAC developers.

By the way Super3 I remember you from the earliest days of mining Protoshares. You were the guy who actually leveled the playing field.

He mined the first PTS block.
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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2014, 01:30:20 AM »
Used to be pretty heavily involved with Bitshares since I mined the first Protoshares block. I since started my own project called http://storj.io/, which focuses on decentralized storage. Bytemaster and I had a discussion or two about how awesome this would be a long time ago. If I remember correctly Bytemaster was working on this concept before Bitshares, and you can see some of his code here: https://github.com/bytemaster/tornet.

Just wanted to start discussion of ways that Storj and Bitshares can work together.

I'm most curious about using Transactions as Proof-of-Stake system for one of our blockchains.
Also I think we could figure out a pretty solid DAC using Storj and Bitshares tech.

If you want to learn some more about Storj there are some good resources:
Website
Pitch Deck
Forum
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I'm sure everyone knows what I'm gonna say but how about a promise of a future Sharedrop to Storjcoin holders? That might light a fire.

It can't come from I3, but from alternative DAC developers.

By the way Super3 I remember you from the earliest days of mining Protoshares. You were the guy who actually leveled the playing field.

He mined the first PTS block.

FreeTrade was the Father of PTS, so I guess that makes Super3 its metaphorical mother?

"The man who launched PTS"

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We offered a bounty for an experienced coin designer to build the PTS protocoin for us.  A developer known as FreeTrade answered the call.  It took him about a month to clone it from the Bitcoin library. Then, while we were still evaluating his code, another independent entrepreneur known as Super3 downloaded the open-source from FreeTrade’s library and started it running.  On November 5, 2013 Super3 went down in history as the miner of the first protocoin block in crypto-equity history!
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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2014, 03:01:15 AM »
@BM : so what is the prospect of a collaboration here?

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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2014, 03:19:21 AM »
@super3  FYI, our primary blockchain security model is now DPOS, not TAPOS. Might be appropriate for storj, might not be, but check it out.

Any DAC that has massive data storage requirements might be able to take advantage of storj, especially if there was a canonical way to verify the storj chain that could be built into our clients.
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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2014, 04:45:45 PM »
@super3  FYI, our primary blockchain security model is now DPOS, not TAPOS. Might be appropriate for storj, might not be, but check it out.

Any DAC that has massive data storage requirements might be able to take advantage of storj, especially if there was a canonical way to verify the storj chain that could be built into our clients.
Ok, I guess I'm a little behind. Any progress on TAPOS?

Well you could just put the hash identifier for the data in your chain. Does your DPOS have any metadata fields? Just need enough space for a hash.

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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2014, 04:50:04 PM »
Dpos can store memo currently already .. check out the current test runs! Pretty sure dpos makes sense for storj hashes
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Re: Storj and Bitshares Collaboration
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2014, 05:19:51 PM »
Dpos can store memo currently already .. check out the current test runs! Pretty sure dpos makes sense for storj hashes
How large are the memos? The data would probably look something like this:

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storj:05ecf7f9d218c631cc380527ac57f72798647824aa8839eb82045ed9fc3360c7?key=f869659afd98d617fc3c0a2b9f8b12a048a8da16a2ce2cc5abe5f42bd0f42845

 

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