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[ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« on: August 05, 2014, 06:16:54 PM »

Hello Bitshares fans and users !  I have been asked to help Toast with the name migration to the new DNS DAC.  Since Toast and the devs are quite busy, I will be working to keep the name migration straight with a result that will make everyone happy.

Here are the basic rules.

All BTSX delegate names will be put inside the new DNS KeyID chain.
- Unless the owner wishes to substitute out a new name
- Unless this name is an existing Keyhotee name

All Keyhotee IDs will be put inside the new DNS KeyID chain by default if the name is legal. [1]
- Unless a substitution request is made.

[1] If the name can be made legal by changing all characters into lowercase this will happen in absence of a requested substitution.

A legal name is a name consisting of standard alpha-character without accents, or numbers, or dashes.  The name can not begin with a number.  The name can not begin or end in a dash.  The length is 1 to 63 letters inclusive.  (These are the same rules for traditional DNS system.)

Please post all substitution requests in this thread.  Also the above rules are not binding.  For instance, a Keyhotee substitution request that conflicts with a BTSX delegate may be decided on a case by case basis by Toast.  I personally do not see this as a likely problem, only possible.  Other behavior seen to be abusive or not in the spirit of this enterprise may not be honored.  This process is mainly meant for Keyhotee founders.


Toast edit: requests from this thread will be counted: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=6170.0
« Last Edit: August 05, 2014, 06:33:46 PM by toast »
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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2014, 06:17:07 PM »
Current up to date list.  Please do not quote full list in posts.  Thank you !
      
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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2014, 07:49:57 PM »
hallo guys, how about those current using names inside of bitsharest? will you transfer them to Keyhotee? should we re-register them again?
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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2014, 08:06:19 PM »
Hi,

I am a bit confused...again...

My forum name "zeus" has been squatted in Bitshares X and I am not sure whether I want/can  use this name anymore as a key ID. Should I?

My kehotee founder ID "mf-tzo" has been partly abused "mf" and "tzo" in bitshares X.

Ideally I would like to choose as a Key ID my family name instead of my kehotee ID. Can I do this without everyone in here knows my family name?

Is Kehotee dead and will not be used anymore?

In very short what is the purpose of the Key ID? I have read but the information to handle just gets bigger and bigger... Will other people know my Key ID?

Thank you very much in advance!

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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2014, 08:34:01 PM »
Hi,

I am a bit confused...again...

My forum name "zeus" has been squatted in Bitshares X and I am not sure whether I want/can  use this name anymore as a key ID. Should I?

My kehotee founder ID "mf-tzo" has been partly abused "mf" and "tzo" in bitshares X.

Ideally I would like to choose as a Key ID my family name instead of my kehotee ID. Can I do this without everyone in here knows my family name?

Is Kehotee dead and will not be used anymore?

In very short what is the purpose of the Key ID? I have read but the information to handle just gets bigger and bigger... Will other people know my Key ID?

Thank you very much in advance!

I can't really make promises about privacy, but I can try.  It would mean I need to make a second list where one is kept private.  I had intended on keeping a running list in here that anyone could check for accuracy.  This would then be parsed into the genesis block.

If you have a keyhotee id and want zeus then request that and I see no reason it shouldn't be put in the Genesis block.  You won't have it on BTSX chain, but you will have it as your KeyID.  KeyID is meant to be a universal login/naming system.  Like DNS for websites, but this is for people.  The KeyID is like a username.  So when you will be authenticated as "zeus".  How the service uses that name is dependent on their implementation.

This thread isn't meant for general questions about KeyID/DNS/p2p DAC.  I would have moved your previous request to the list already I just haven't started migrating things from the other thread yet.  The idea is just to get the ball rolling.

No clue about Keyhotee etc, that is for a thread elsewhere.  This is meant for name requests and migrations.   We're trying to allow everyone who had their name squatted to have a chance at getting their preferred name in the new chain.  Toast started this process but is very busy with various things so he asked me to help so I am taking it over.
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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2014, 08:38:51 PM »
hallo guys, how about those current using names inside of bitsharest? will you transfer them to Keyhotee? should we re-register them again?

Only delegate names will be transferred from BTSX chain.  Keyhotee id owners will be given precedence if there are collisions.  If you want your name on DNS chain then the solution is to register it as a delegate.  That way you'll control the private key etc and there should be no issues as it will be done automatically.

I know nothing about the plans for keyhotee and this thread isn't about Keyhotee directly.  This is to make sure Keyhotee id owners get what they desire in the new DNS chain.
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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2014, 08:49:48 PM »

I realize there are a lot of questions about Keyhotee.  I will try my best to get the current answers, but I am not involved with Keyhotee at all and apologize for my inability to answer such questions at this point.

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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2014, 09:03:31 PM »
Thank you very much for your replies! really appreciate this just another question...

I guess it makes sense to use as a key ID "zeus" since everyone in here know me under that name and not under my founder ID.

But if I choose that, can someone else squat "mf-tzo" (my founder ID) as a Key ID? If that is the case this will create even more confusion and it would make sense to keep my kehotee ID "mf-tzo" as keyID...

I am curious as to what will toast is going to do since he is in a similar situation like me. Although everyone knows him as Nikolai as well...

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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2014, 09:15:09 PM »
Thank you very much for your replies! really appreciate this just another question...

I guess it makes sense to use as a key ID "zeus" since everyone in here know me under that name and not under my founder ID.

But if I choose that, can someone else squat "mf-tzo" (my founder ID) as a Key ID? If that is the case this will create even more confusion and it would make sense to keep my kehotee ID "mf-tzo" as keyID...

I am curious as to what will toast is going to do since he is in a similar situation like me. Although everyone knows him as Nikolai as well...

I'd suggest registering mf-tzo as an account and a delegate if at all possible.  However if you don't use mf-tzo elsewhere, perhaps you should just abandon it.

If you do not have mf-tzo as either 1) registered delegate on btsx chain or 2) requested by way of keyhotee id change then it will be available to whoever wants to register it on the DNS/KeyID chain.

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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2014, 10:35:20 PM »
I definitely don't want someone to squat "mf-tzo" as key ID.

Since I was a founder "mf-tzo" appears in BTSX as a standby delegate with 0% approval. So is this sufficient not to get squatted by someone else if I choose "zeus" as key ID?

I am sorry to be a pain...I think I am making this a bigger issue than it should be...In any case let me think this through for 1 day...

Thanks again!

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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2014, 12:08:32 AM »
Keyhotee Founder:  "jimewu" ->  "michaelcat"
Is your desired KeyID squatted on BTSX?:   yes, "michealcat" (it is a registered ID BTSX of mine)   
PTS: PmRVDPymZqSAZEXauHZSewrUrE66af7epT
BTSX: michaelcat
Delegate Team: x1.sun  x2.sun

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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2014, 12:34:25 AM »
I definitely don't want someone to squat "mf-tzo" as key ID.

Since I was a founder "mf-tzo" appears in BTSX as a standby delegate with 0% approval. So is this sufficient not to get squatted by someone else if I choose "zeus" as key ID?

I am sorry to be a pain...I think I am making this a bigger issue than it should be...In any case let me think this through for 1 day...

Thanks again!

It is ok.  My English in the first message isn't real standard.  I'll let you think it through for a day ;)

Any account that is a registered delegate will be moved to the DNS/KeyID chain.  So yes, mf-tzo will be moved.  If you request a name change to zeus then the old delegate ID will still be in the new chain because it is registered as a delegate.
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2014, 01:20:33 AM »
delegate.baozi is register as delegate on btsx, but baozi is not.  Can I get baozi with the same addres on dns keyID?

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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2014, 01:54:21 AM »

It is ok.  My English in the first message isn't real standard.  I'll let you think it through for a day ;)

Any account that is a registered delegate will be moved to the DNS/KeyID chain.  So yes, mf-tzo will be moved.  If you request a name change to zeus then the old delegate ID will still be in the new chain because it is registered as a delegate.

Good job! gamey!
Pls confirm me that in order to keep my id, do i have to register my id as deleagate.
Is there any difference between normal registered id and delegate id in usage or security, if i am not going to be one of 101 delegate and not mind of some more register fee?

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Re: [ANN] Keyhotee users and Delegate requests for KeyID.
« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2014, 07:09:44 AM »
Keyhotee Founder:  XiaoMi ->  mi
Is your desired KeyID squatted on BTSX?:   yes,"mi" (it was registed by the other people but not me)

Finally thanks for your hard work!  +5%
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