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Offline bitcoinerS

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Large sum sent to wrong address
« on: August 20, 2014, 03:37:56 AM »

I may have lost a bunch of BTSX :( :'(

Here is how it happened.
I had a second wallet created to keep funds that were intended to stay offline and created a local unregistered account called:
offline
then I added a contact in my default wallet to this account using BTS address. I wanted to keep funds offline on an account that was unregistered.

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>>> wallet_list_accounts
NAME (* delegate)                  KEY                                                             REGISTERED            FAVORITE       APPROVAL       
..
offline                            BTSX6HiUejJHnU3sLfrQNCFP3PnSSHXzWboFRc9CozCbnPszJzzTpJ          NO                    NO             0     

I transferred funds to this account without problems, till today when I tried again and got this error

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>>> wallet_transfer 260000 BTSX slavix offline
20025 duplicate_account_name: duplicate account name
Local account name conflicts with registered name. Please rename your local account first.
    {"to_account_name":"offline"}



Not quite thinking this through I thought maybe if I change account name transfer will work.

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 >>> wallet_account_rename offline clouds
OK.


Then I transfered funds

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>>> wallet_transfer 260000 BTSX slavix offline
RECEIVED            BLOCK     FROM                TO                  AMOUNT                  MEMO                                        FEE                 ID     
======================================================================================================================================================================
2014-08-20T02:25:23 PENDING   slavix              offline             260,000.00000 BTSX                                                  0.50000 BTSX        f48debdf

but they did not get to my offline account.. instead they went to some one else who apparently registered account offline and now has my BTSX  :'( :'( :'(
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Offline toast

Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 03:46:40 AM »
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since receiver can see "from" address maybe they will be nice and send it back.

Good opportunity to think about how to prevent user from doing this. At the end of the day the problem is that you specified to send to "offline" which is a real account... Only thing is to say "I remember you recently had an account named this, are you sure this is what you are trying to do?"
Do not use this post as information for making any important decisions. The only agreements I ever make are informal and non-binding. Take the same precautions as when dealing with a compromised account, scammer, sockpuppet, etc.

Offline bytemaster

Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2014, 03:49:37 AM »
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since receiver can see "from" address maybe they will be nice and send it back.

Good opportunity to think about how to prevent user from doing this. At the end of the day the problem is that you specified to send to "offline" which is a real account... Only thing is to say "I remember you recently had an account named this, are you sure this is what you are trying to do?"

Lets have the delegates vote for a rollback...   





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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 03:51:56 AM »
Maybe this local accounts are a bad idea in general. I did my share of stupidity with them also (not quite financially damaging for me but still).

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=7051.msg93941#msg93941

What the above post is missing is the continuation of my story (as it is off topic in that thread).

To prevent further damage I 'renamed' the account... Just to find out that the renaming is for local/in wallet use only...
« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 03:58:56 AM by tonyk »
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 03:55:46 AM »
The gui should have an indication of whether an account is local or public next to the account suggestions when submitting a transaction.

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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2014, 04:05:04 AM »
The gui should have an indication of whether an account is local or public next to the account suggestions when submitting a transaction.

In the 0.4.4 GUI we already have that :)
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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2014, 04:08:08 AM »
Best practice for future reference:

   All local/private accounts should be child accounts of a registered account you control.  This way you don't have to worry about someone else taking your name.
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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2014, 04:39:46 AM »
Best practice for future reference:

   All local/private accounts should be child accounts of a registered account you control.  This way you don't have to worry about someone else taking your name.

...and try to break big operations up into smaller ones.  Trust, but verify. 
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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2014, 04:46:57 AM »
用你的热钱包,可以给你的冷钱包注册名字的。
这样就不会出问题了。
建议增加直接发送地址功能。

Offline Riverhead

Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 04:47:16 AM »
You can send them a small amount, like 0.1 btsx and put a message in it.

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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 04:57:01 AM »
You can send them a small amount, like 0.1 btsx and put a message in it.

I did. Sent him/her a transaction/message asking for btsx back...

I feel so dumb and disgusted right now..  >:(  :'( :-\
« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 04:58:39 AM by bitcoinerS »
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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2014, 05:12:10 AM »
You can send them a small amount, like 0.1 btsx and put a message in it.

I did. Sent him/her a transaction/message asking for btsx back...

I feel so dumb and disgusted right now..  >:(  :'( :-\
I have post in Chinese board.
wish you can get them back.

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Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2014, 06:34:47 AM »
You can send them a small amount, like 0.1 btsx and put a message in it.

I did. Sent him/her a transaction/message asking for btsx back...

I feel so dumb and disgusted right now..  >:(  :'( :-\
I have post in Chinese board.
wish you can get them back.

Thanks. I have very little hope..
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Offline Riverhead

Re: Large sum sent to wrong address
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2014, 12:56:44 PM »
It might just take a while. The name of the account implies it's not one they look at a lot.


Also create a new thread on the forum like: BTSX Account "offline" please read this.


Or something to get their attention if they check the forums.

 

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