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Why are linux users being ignored???
« on: August 24, 2014, 11:23:43 AM »

maqifrnswa and I keep asking DSL to make linux binaries available with other download links and so far received no response.
 maqifrnswa has already setup a ppa repository and tried contacting DSL too.
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Why are linux users being mistreated? Why is DSL so unresponsive?
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2014, 11:30:42 AM »
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2014, 11:34:00 AM »
maqifrnswa and I keep asking DSL to make linux binaries available with other download links and so far received no response.
 maqifrnswa has already setup a ppa repository and tried contacting DSL too.
 Ubuntu PPA: https://launchpad.net/~showard314/+archive/ubuntu/bitshares

Why are linux users being mistreated? Why is DSL so unresponsive?
Thanks for the iniative .. how is DSL?


Just a warning: running binaries of third-parties requires (alot of) trust. Maybe we should force dacsunlimited to build theses sources ..

anyway, also in the bitcoin community .. building trusted binaries is FAR for easy .. checkout gitian!
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2014, 11:52:28 AM »
Maybe we should force dacsunlimited to build theses sources ..

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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2014, 11:57:49 AM »
I'm happy building from source.

And in response to your question.  Because we are a minority and are generally capable of doing it ourselves.
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2014, 12:02:59 PM »
I'm happy building from source.

Good for you. I too am happy to build from source. Does not mean all users should be expected to want to do it or know how to.
It is simply unrealistic to expect all linux users to be techies. There millions of of linux users who do not want to compile anything.
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2014, 12:09:37 PM »
I'm happy building from source.

Good for you. I too am happy to build from source. Does not mean all users should be expected to want to do it or know how to.
It is simply unrealistic to expect all linux users to be techies. There millions of of linux users who do not want to compile anything.
I agree with you, I just think they have bigger fish to fry.  Sorry my first post didn't express that.
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2014, 12:15:05 PM »
I am against using the force. We waited before, we can do it again. As long as I can buy BitUSD from the terminal I am fine.

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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2014, 12:50:42 PM »
So it seems some of us don't want mass adoption to happen...
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2014, 01:25:19 PM »
Linux is a tough target.  I think it can be supported soon. 
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2014, 01:46:35 PM »
I too am a Linux user, but I do understand rollout will follow user base:

Ie. Win -> Mac -> Linux

All things come to he who waits.


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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2014, 01:55:16 PM »
Maybe we should force dacsunlimited to build theses sources ..

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 +5% but how do you force anyone to do anything? It's far from ideal, but right now non-technical users either have to trust me (and Canonical) or build themselves. Being that I'm a DD with upload access to the entire debian and ubuntu archive, I think there is some reason to trust me - but I wouldn't fault anyone that doesn't.  My ppa is to the point that it is updated with four commands, and DSL could just take it over:
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$ dch -i
$ ./debian/rules get-orig-source
$ dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa
$ dput ppa:showard314/bitshares ../{new changes file}

Anyone can copy my debian directory and do it themselves if they don't trust me
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2014, 02:22:19 PM »
ok ... the term "forcing" was chosen unwisely .. no one can force them .. but we can show them that (at least for some platforms) a binary is quickly made
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2014, 02:25:01 PM »
If you all can put together a pull request for a script that will package linux binaries for release then I am sure DAC Sun will use it.   The issue right now is that releases are coming out daily and building for 3x platforms is 50% more work.   I think that linux users can either build from source or wait until the first "stable" release is out and binaries are produced for it.
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Re: Why are linux users being ignored???
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2014, 02:34:39 PM »
ok ... the term "forcing" was chosen unwisely .. no one can force them .. but we can show them that (at least for some platforms) a binary is quickly made

that would be great, and I think we have enough people that if DSL just tells us what system they want to use (gitian, self-hosted and signed PPAs, their own system) we as a community can provide them with scripts that just work and update whatever they choose.
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