BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade

Started by bytemaster, August 25, 2014, 09:28:22 PM

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puppies

Quote from: kevin486 on August 26, 2014, 09:04:34 AM
Quote from: luckybit on August 25, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on August 25, 2014, 09:28:22 PM
We have identified an issue that requires an immediate hard fork to resolve.  We have removed the required depth.

Updates will follow shortly.

Wow I didn't even know markets could be paused. This is a pretty smooth way to handle it.


If someday, the government say: BM, I command you to pause the market, then it paused immediately.   

I never know this before.....
There is a requirement for a certain amount of market depth before the markets will execute.  This prevents a single person from attacking the order book in a market with very few actors.  Right now the market is very young and there is very little depth on the buy side of bit usd.  BM has placed bid orders to get the depth of that side of the book over the 20M BTSX requirement.  When there was a problem he simply removed those orders.  If another actor had the funds to place those orders and was so inclined the markets would have opened. 
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Quote from: kevin486 on August 26, 2014, 09:04:34 AM
Quote from: luckybit on August 25, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on August 25, 2014, 09:28:22 PM
We have identified an issue that requires an immediate hard fork to resolve.  We have removed the required depth.

Updates will follow shortly.

Wow I didn't even know markets could be paused. This is a pretty smooth way to handle it.

If someday, the government say: BM, I command you to pause the market, then it paused immediately.   

I never know this before.....

if that day comes remember that delegates must agree on that decision!
That was the case right now.The majority of delegates agreed for a reason !  For the best interrest of current shareholders.
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quickbit

Quote from: luckybit on August 25, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
Quote from: bytemaster on August 25, 2014, 09:28:22 PM
We have identified an issue that requires an immediate hard fork to resolve.  We have removed the required depth.

Updates will follow shortly.

Wow I didn't even know markets could be paused. This is a pretty smooth way to handle it.

If someday, the government say: BM, I command you to pause the market, then it paused immediately.   

I never know this before.....

bitcoinerS

Quote from: bytemaster on August 26, 2014, 06:31:48 AM
That version wasn't tagged but is GUI only... "master" is the one you want.

I pulled master and recompiled. The issued did not go away..
>>> approve bitcoiners

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That version wasn't tagged but is GUI only... "master" is the one you want.
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Quote from: bytemaster on August 26, 2014, 02:59:23 AM
All delegates have upgraded, version 0.4.8-a of the GUI has been released, trading can resume safely.

I can't find 0.4.8-a...


$ git tag -l
0.2.0
0.2.1
0.2.2
0.2.3
0.2.4
0.3.0
0.3.1
0.4.0
0.4.1
0.4.2
0.4.3
0.4.4
0.4.5
0.4.6
0.4.7
0.4.8
v0.0.1-alpha.1
v0.0.1-alpha.2
v0.0.1-dryrun.10
v0.0.1-dryrun.8

>>> approve bitcoiners

bytemaster

All delegates have upgraded, version 0.4.8-a of the GUI has been released, trading can resume safely.
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clayop

Quote from: robrigo on August 26, 2014, 12:15:48 AM
Quote from: bytemaster on August 25, 2014, 11:51:31 PM
Quote from: robrigo on August 25, 2014, 11:39:21 PM
Any ETA for the dmg / exe releases? I could build from source but not really in the mood if the team is releasing executables.

Executables in progress...

dmg is live! Thanks for all the hard work BTSX team.

waiting for .exe now
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robrigo

Quote from: bytemaster on August 25, 2014, 11:51:31 PM
Quote from: robrigo on August 25, 2014, 11:39:21 PM
Any ETA for the dmg / exe releases? I could build from source but not really in the mood if the team is releasing executables.

Executables in progress...

dmg is live! Thanks for all the hard work BTSX team.

bytemaster

Quote from: robrigo on August 25, 2014, 11:39:21 PM
Any ETA for the dmg / exe releases? I could build from source but not really in the mood if the team is releasing executables.

Executables in progress...
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robrigo

Any ETA for the dmg / exe releases? I could build from source but not really in the mood if the team is releasing executables.

xeroc

#19
*.xeroc up and running!
backup machine will follow tomorrow

tonyk

Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.


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tonyk

Quote from: trader on August 25, 2014, 10:21:55 PM
Quote from: CoinHoarder on August 25, 2014, 10:14:51 PM
Quote from: trader on August 25, 2014, 10:08:34 PM
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

In that case, wouldn't they be forced to cover once the market comes back into action??

Yes but if the shorts did not post enough collateral, they could get away not losing as much BTSX as they should when the market re-opens. Im just trying to figure out how BTSX deals with this.

Can you explain how this 'not loosing enough collateral' works?
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

CoinHoarder

Quote from: trader on August 25, 2014, 10:21:55 PM
Quote from: CoinHoarder on August 25, 2014, 10:14:51 PM
Quote from: trader on August 25, 2014, 10:08:34 PM
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

In that case, wouldn't they be forced to cover once the market comes back into action??

Yes but if the shorts did not post enough collateral, they could get away not losing as much BTSX as they should when the market re-opens. Im just trying to figure out how BTSX deals with this.

Ah yeah, good point. Well, lets hope that doesn't happen! Short of a flash crash I don't think it well, especially considering the recent upwards trend.  :D
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Quote from: CoinHoarder on August 25, 2014, 10:14:51 PM
Quote from: trader on August 25, 2014, 10:08:34 PM
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

In that case, wouldn't they be forced to cover once the market comes back into action??

Yes but if the shorts did not post enough collateral, they could get away not losing as much BTSX as they should when the market re-opens. Im just trying to figure out how BTSX deals with this.

CoinHoarder

Quote from: trader on August 25, 2014, 10:08:34 PM
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

In that case, wouldn't they be forced to cover once the market comes back into action??
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speedy

As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

tonyk

yes, for the next time (let's hope never) it will be a good first step for everybody:

cancel all open orders
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

CoinHoarder

At least it can be fixed somewhat easily it sounds like. Good work noticing the problem.  :)
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Quote from: luckybit on August 25, 2014, 09:54:22 PM
Wow I didn't even know markets could be paused. This is a pretty smooth way to handle it.
They cannot ... I guess they had a bigger stake on the order book to enable the market in the first place and canceled the order .... once the market is live and the depth is enough (until now) the market goes on ..

Having a market that can be paused would be VERY BAD PR

luckybit

Quote from: bytemaster on August 25, 2014, 09:28:22 PM
We have identified an issue that requires an immediate hard fork to resolve.  We have removed the required depth.

Updates will follow shortly.

Wow I didn't even know markets could be paused. This is a pretty smooth way to handle it.
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Riverhead

Quote from: tbkmcjl on August 25, 2014, 09:33:44 PM
How shortly ?

It's 5:33 AM here .
Am I gonna see it when I wake up at 10 AM about 5 hours later?


Time to brew some coffee :). I doubt I'll be getting much sleep tonight either.

bytemaster

Quote from: tbkmcjl on August 25, 2014, 09:33:44 PM
How shortly ?

It's 5:33 AM here .
Am I gonna see it when I wake up at 10 AM about 5 hours later?

I hope DAC Sun can get a patch out within the hour. 
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bytemaster

We have identified an issue that requires an immediate hard fork to resolve.  We have removed the required depth.

Updates will follow shortly.

For the latest updates checkout my blog: [url="http://bytemaster.bitshares.org"]http://bytemaster.bitshares.org[/url]
Anything said on these forums does not constitute an intent to create a legal obligation or contract between myself and anyone else.   These are merely my opinions and I reserve the right to change them at any time.