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BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:28:22 PM »

We have identified an issue that requires an immediate hard fork to resolve.  We have removed the required depth.

Updates will follow shortly.

 
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2014, 09:39:13 PM »
How shortly ?

It's 5:33 AM here .
Am I gonna see it when I wake up at 10 AM about 5 hours later?

I hope DAC Sun can get a patch out within the hour. 
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2014, 09:40:18 PM »
How shortly ?

It's 5:33 AM here .
Am I gonna see it when I wake up at 10 AM about 5 hours later?


Time to brew some coffee :). I doubt I'll be getting much sleep tonight either.

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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2014, 09:48:36 PM »
puh .. just wanted to go to bed .. *darn*
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2014, 09:54:22 PM »
We have identified an issue that requires an immediate hard fork to resolve.  We have removed the required depth.

Updates will follow shortly.

Wow I didn't even know markets could be paused. This is a pretty smooth way to handle it.
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 09:56:30 PM »
Wow I didn't even know markets could be paused. This is a pretty smooth way to handle it.
They cannot ... I guess they had a bigger stake on the order book to enable the market in the first place and canceled the order .... once the market is live and the depth is enough (until now) the market goes on ..

Having a market that can be paused would be VERY BAD PR
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 10:03:44 PM »
At least it can be fixed somewhat easily it sounds like. Good work noticing the problem.  :)
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 10:06:46 PM »
yes, for the next time (let's hope never) it will be a good first step for everybody:

 cancel all open orders
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2014, 10:08:34 PM »
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2014, 10:13:47 PM »
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2014, 10:14:51 PM »
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

In that case, wouldn't they be forced to cover once the market comes back into action??
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2014, 10:21:55 PM »
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

In that case, wouldn't they be forced to cover once the market comes back into action??

Yes but if the shorts did not post enough collateral, they could get away not losing as much BTSX as they should when the market re-opens. Im just trying to figure out how BTSX deals with this.
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2014, 10:24:34 PM »
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

In that case, wouldn't they be forced to cover once the market comes back into action??

Yes but if the shorts did not post enough collateral, they could get away not losing as much BTSX as they should when the market re-opens. Im just trying to figure out how BTSX deals with this.

Ah yeah, good point. Well, lets hope that doesn't happen! Short of a flash crash I don't think it well, especially considering the recent upwards trend.  :D
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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2014, 10:55:42 PM »
As I understand it, if there was a 50% crash right now, the peg would be screwed because trading is disabled therefore shorters cant be forced to cover. Is that just about correct?

In that case, wouldn't they be forced to cover once the market comes back into action??

Yes but if the shorts did not post enough collateral, they could get away not losing as much BTSX as they should when the market re-opens. Im just trying to figure out how BTSX deals with this.

Can you explain how this 'not loosing enough collateral' works?
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: BitUSD Market Paused until Delegates can Upgrade
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2014, 10:57:34 PM »
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