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Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« on: September 01, 2014, 07:54:57 PM »

looks to me the new implemeted rules killed every trading. compared with the volume before it is a joke in the bitUSD market.

i am a supporter to let it go and watch. why restrict something 3 days old? it is only natural that it have to be balanced out and it will happen with time and trading.

maybe you can explain it a little bit what changes now encoded, because i just can place bids and short. nothing will happen. i can match the bid or ask side nothing happens. looks broke in my eyes.
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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2014, 08:12:44 PM »
 +5%

I can explaine what I have learned through trail and error but it will definitely not be the same.
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 08:17:48 PM »
maybe you can explain it a little bit what changes now encoded, because i just can place bids and short. nothing will happen. i can match the bid or ask side nothing happens. looks broke in my eyes.

trading is still paused due to insufficient market depth
« Last Edit: September 01, 2014, 08:36:27 PM by maqifrnswa »
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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2014, 08:19:25 PM »
maybe you can explain it a little bit what changes now encoded, because i just can place bids and short. nothing will happen. i can match the bid or ask side nothing happens. looks broke in my eyes.

trading is still paused due to insufficient market depth

then just found a bug, because no message in the top. in the past everytime it would show the message.

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2014, 08:21:40 PM »
it's not right. a trade occured just now!

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 08:36:19 PM »
it's not right. a trade occured just now!

you're right, i'll correct it! there's less than 20 million btsx on each side (that used to be the min. depth)
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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 08:42:31 PM »

The required depth is 10 mil BTSX (0.5% of total BTSX supplely) since  0.4.9, I think...
Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2014, 08:45:56 PM »
Min Depth is 10M BTSX.
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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2014, 08:51:53 PM »
without short the minimum ask is right now

0.0303

tha actual bid price is also 0.303

no matching for 5 minutes

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2014, 08:56:50 PM »
without short the minimum ask is right now

0.0303

tha actual bid price is also 0.303

no matching for 5 minutes

That is due to rounding error. If the bid is increased by 0.0001 BTSX/USD it will go through.

[edit] actually by 0.00000003 will be enough in this case
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Lack of arbitrage is the problem, isn't it. And this 'should' solves it.

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2014, 08:58:58 PM »
ok, if this the case, this should be fixed as well. it is not possible to see that.
and you can't modify an order only cancel.

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2014, 08:59:27 PM »
ok, if this the case, this should be fixed as well. it is not possible to see that.

I agree.  We have already talked about this particular issue. 
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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2014, 09:01:34 PM »
so bytemaster the shorts are ignored till what point exact? maybe something like a line or information could be displayed

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2014, 09:02:39 PM »
so bytemaster the shorts are ignored till what point exact? maybe something like a line or information could be displayed

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Re: Bytemaster please explain the new tradingrules in 0.4.10
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2014, 09:03:05 PM »
so bytemaster the shorts are ignored till what point exact? maybe something like a line or information could be displayed

A GUI update is about to be pushed to clarify this.  They are ignored until the median price feed is above their price.
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