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Offline fuzzy


I am a nublet here, but pay a great deal of attention to the patterns of corruption in both the U.S.A. and worldwide.  DAC's seem like a brand-new paradigm...and a new paradigm is needed in order to fix the issues at hand within the context of fascist (merger of state and corporate powers) control.  DAC's could destroy fascism in its tracks...

Lenin: 'Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the socialist state.'

Churchill: 'Control your citizens' health care and you control your citizens.'

For the Technically Inclined, ObamaCare (which had to be passed before we could see what was in it---huh?..yeh) should be a glowing example of an intentionally destructive pattern of action (and inaction) in some of the highest tiers of our "governments".  With this said, I am hoping to simply put the idea out there for those more well-versed in the building of complex systems to consider.  A truly fair system of valuation that can specifically strengthen the provisions without breaking the law (thus rendering the intentional destructive forces behind it benign) could literally serve as a foundation for saving our first America, and then the entire world...

Hoping at the very least to contribute ideas for potential implementation...and this will not be the last one.  Thanks for reading.
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Re: Healthcare Pricing Models? Alternatives to Health Insurance "Exchanges"?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2013, 02:30:17 AM »
This is an interesting idea, but what exactly would this DAC do? Would it simply use community consensus to determine a fair healthcare pricing model? Or would it somehow actually function as a Health Insurance Exchange?
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Re: Healthcare Pricing Models? Alternatives to Health Insurance "Exchanges"?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 06:08:29 AM »
Insurance is something that is hard to do in a DAC because of insurance fraud.   You could use a DAC to predict the value of cures or to estimate the risk of various procedures. 

The problem is that a DAC cannot depend upon any ONE provider of a good or service and a DAC must be able to reach a consensus about things without relying upon trust.   

The building blocks that we have to work with are:

1) Equity
2) Dividends
3) Transaction Fees
4) Multi-Sig Transactions
5) Prediction Markets
6) Options
7) Auctions

So a prediction market on the weather, the chance of a hurricane, the value of a dollar, an idea, or a political outcome are all possible.    If you want insurance it must use these tools as the foundation or invent a new tool.

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Re: Healthcare Pricing Models? Alternatives to Health Insurance "Exchanges"?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 11:57:14 AM »
Insurance is something that is hard to do in a DAC because of insurance fraud.   You could use a DAC to predict the value of cures or to estimate the risk of various procedures. 

The problem is that a DAC cannot depend upon any ONE provider of a good or service and a DAC must be able to reach a consensus about things without relying upon trust.   

The building blocks that we have to work with are:

1) Equity
2) Dividends
3) Transaction Fees
4) Multi-Sig Transactions
5) Prediction Markets
6) Options
7) Auctions

So a prediction market on the weather, the chance of a hurricane, the value of a dollar, an idea, or a political outcome are all possible.    If you want insurance it must use these tools as the foundation or invent a new tool.


Would it be possible for HealthCare DAC's to hire Dr's to provide services based on a specific pricing model of their choosing, thus opening a new market to compete with the current one that is flush with corruption?  Like I said before, I am still learning so definitely interested in the concept.  I also am aware you guys don't want to go to prison for the rest of your lives for offering a service that, though all-around better and uplifting to humanity--is deemed "illegal" by narcissistic bureaucrats at the behest of their puppet masters.  However, this also brings up a good point to consider, both for the Dev Team and the Community at large...Is this meant to be a Velvet Revolution?  And if so, how can DAC's be built up to fight the Guaranteed (and potentially thuggish) opposition to progress that will be encountered? 

My vote is for moving toward progress as long as it benefits people...but i'm just a little guy with a bunch of ideas ;)
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Re: Healthcare Pricing Models? Alternatives to Health Insurance "Exchanges"?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 01:03:07 PM »
Insurance is something that is hard to do in a DAC because of insurance fraud.   You could use a DAC to predict the value of cures or to estimate the risk of various procedures. 

The problem is that a DAC cannot depend upon any ONE provider of a good or service and a DAC must be able to reach a consensus about things without relying upon trust.   

The building blocks that we have to work with are:

1) Equity
2) Dividends
3) Transaction Fees
4) Multi-Sig Transactions
5) Prediction Markets
6) Options
7) Auctions

So a prediction market on the weather, the chance of a hurricane, the value of a dollar, an idea, or a political outcome are all possible.    If you want insurance it must use these tools as the foundation or invent a new tool.


Would it be possible for HealthCare DAC's to hire Dr's to provide services based on a specific pricing model of their choosing, thus opening a new market to compete with the current one that is flush with corruption?  Like I said before, I am still learning so definitely interested in the concept.  I also am aware you guys don't want to go to prison for the rest of your lives for offering a service that, though all-around better and uplifting to humanity--is deemed "illegal" by narcissistic bureaucrats at the behest of their puppet masters.  However, this also brings up a good point to consider, both for the Dev Team and the Community at large...Is this meant to be a Velvet Revolution?  And if so, how can DAC's be built up to fight the Guaranteed (and potentially thuggish) opposition to progress that will be encountered? 

My vote is for moving toward progress as long as it benefits people...but i'm just a little guy with a bunch of ideas ;)

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Has anyone looked at a DAC for life insurance?

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Has anyone looked at a DAC for life insurance?

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That is called an assignation market, and yes there is a DAC for that, but NO I will not reveal the design.
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