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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2014, 12:06:15 AM »
I wouldnt bother... only 2 upvotes.
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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2014, 01:45:15 AM »

It is worth reading to see how to handle the religion/tribe that is Bitcoin.  I think arhag+robrigo+methodx did a good job.  Dealing with these bitcoinheads takes a refined approach.  It was probably a wasted effort in this case, but I'd suggest anyone who ever evangelizes to read the thread to look at good ways to approach.
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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2014, 02:38:01 AM »

They did a fantastic job. It's sort of ironic that the same people that struggle to get others to take Bitcoin seriously shrug off other technologies like they themselves are shrugged off. Maybe they don't see the irony, I dunno. History is littered with those that hold too tightly to the past. What is most depressing is that they do not see how these new technologies can bolster Bitcoin and give it more strength in the world. Perhaps after Vegas some will understand better that we are not their enemy.



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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 06:21:19 AM »

They did a fantastic job. It's sort of ironic that the same people that struggle to get others to take Bitcoin seriously shrug off other technologies like they themselves are shrugged off. Maybe they don't see the irony, I dunno. History is littered with those that hold too tightly to the past. What is most depressing is that they do not see how these new technologies can bolster Bitcoin and give it more strength in the world. Perhaps after Vegas some will understand better that we are not their enemy.
+5% ..

still the article was a little aggressive .. but people need to open their eyes and stop that mining sh*** as quickly as possible .. [/IMHO]

//edit: still upvoting the discussion on reddit
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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 07:21:02 AM »

They did a fantastic job. It's sort of ironic that the same people that struggle to get others to take Bitcoin seriously shrug off other technologies like they themselves are shrugged off. Maybe they don't see the irony, I dunno. History is littered with those that hold too tightly to the past. What is most depressing is that they do not see how these new technologies can bolster Bitcoin and give it more strength in the world. Perhaps after Vegas some will understand better that we are not their enemy.
+5% ..

still the article was a little aggressive .. but people need to open their eyes and stop that mining sh*** as quickly as possible .. [/IMHO]

//edit: still upvoting the discussion on reddit

the bitcoin millionaires should at least start doing some research on renewable energy. one side effect of this is peer to peer electricity/energy grids:  http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Energy_Grid

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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 07:27:13 AM »
green electricity doesn't really count IMHO:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics
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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 08:09:00 AM »
green electricity doesn't really count IMHO:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics

clicked that wiki and i was like whoa.. so i had to search for another article.  found this:  http://www.shapingtomorrowsworld.org/energy_is_neither.html

anyway, i guess one good reason for renewable energy research is to be able to set up peer to peer energy grids.  that at least could help humanity in a way.  we can't stop energy use (like wasteful btc mining), so why not distribute energy in a decentralized manner.  there's an argument that it would make it cheaper.
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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 08:44:24 AM »

They did a fantastic job. It's sort of ironic that the same people that struggle to get others to take Bitcoin seriously shrug off other technologies like they themselves are shrugged off. Maybe they don't see the irony, I dunno. History is littered with those that hold too tightly to the past. What is most depressing is that they do not see how these new technologies can bolster Bitcoin and give it more strength in the world. Perhaps after Vegas some will understand better that we are not their enemy.
+5% ..
but people need to open their eyes and stop that mining sh*** as quickly as possible .. [/IMHO]


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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2014, 09:36:07 AM »
anyway, i guess one good reason for renewable energy research is to be able to set up peer to peer energy grids.  that at least could help humanity in a way.  we can't stop energy use (like wasteful btc mining), so why not distribute energy in a decentralized manner.  there's an argument that it would make it cheaper.
The issue here is also efficiency .. a nuclear power plant is alot more efficient then 100 wind mills or solar panels on the roofs .. also the distribution over 10 high voltage power lanes is more efficient than 100 low power lanes :-|
physical efficiency and decentralization do not really fit well together it seems
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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2014, 09:39:40 AM »
Such posts are there to learn from.

we don't want to be the "the greedy company" that commercialized the non professional Bitcoin community / grass roots effort (such a sentiment of course woud be entirely irrational since everything is based on free trade but nevertheless influential):
... maybe avoid peaks of confidence like " use our edge to suck all of the wealth listed in coinmarketcap"

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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2014, 11:01:25 AM »
anyway, i guess one good reason for renewable energy research is to be able to set up peer to peer energy grids.  that at least could help humanity in a way.  we can't stop energy use (like wasteful btc mining), so why not distribute energy in a decentralized manner.  there's an argument that it would make it cheaper.
The issue here is also efficiency .. a nuclear power plant is alot more efficient then 100 wind mills or solar panels on the roofs .. also the distribution over 10 high voltage power lanes is more efficient than 100 low power lanes :-|
physical efficiency and decentralization do not really fit well together it seems

true.  that's exactly why i think the bitcoin millionaires should at least start doing some R&D on renewable energy and improve the technology.

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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2014, 11:01:58 AM »
*agreed*

summary:
bitcoin miners => nuclear power plants :-)
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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2014, 11:06:01 AM »
*agreed*

summary:
bitcoin miners => nuclear power plants :-)

sounds ridiculous, i know.  but bitcoin started:  crypto > banks.  :)

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Re: Reddit Post - Not Favourable - Community May Want to Engage
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2014, 11:25:38 AM »
If you bought bitcoin at >$600, you don't want to see post any crypto innovations better than bitcoin

 

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