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[DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« on: September 17, 2014, 12:12:39 AM »

Original discussion initiated here: https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8933.msg115977#msg115977

Future Tech Farm is a decentralized autonomous food production platform.  This will be one of the first DACs implemented for the production of physical goods, focusing on fresh produce.

Co-founded by Brian Falther & Austin Lawrence
http://futuretechfarm.com

Currently in team build out phase to initiate research & development.

Original Post content:
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2020: A Call For DApps & DAO's

http://koinify.com/blog/2020-a-call-for-dapps-and-daos/

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Hey guys,

We're writing to share with you our vision of how we see the future, and where we see this decentralized application industry taking us. With the 2020: A Call For DApps & DAO's - we lay out where we see these companies going, and what we believe will foster development, growth, and adoption of this technology as a whole.

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Hey Tom!  Welcome to the BitShares community  :)

I'll take this opportunity to share my vision of a DAC I've been working on.

My name is Brian Falther and I believe from now through the next couple of decades, we're going to see the emergence of DACs for the production of physical items.  I think one way to think about it could be "the internet of things 2.0" or what I've been referring to in conversations with close friends as "the blockchain of things" movement (...there's already evidence that others are thinking about this too - IBM's proposed Adept platform).  I'm super excited to see the 'physical infrastructure' section on your blog post!

The DAC we're working on is a decentralized autonomous food production platform called Future Tech Farm.  This analogy is still fresh, so let me know if it makes sense: it's like Uber, but for farming.  We want to build a platform where anyone can be a farmer without any geographic, or knowledge-based prerequisites.  Our goal is to enable anyone to grow food for themselves, their family, and properly incentivize them to grow for others too.  Imagine hyper-local produce delivered via drones to your doorstep for less than what you'd pay at Walmart with higher quality than what you'd find at Whole Foods.  We believe this is the point in history where farming will follow what the computer industry did in the 50's & 60's; from large mainframes with umbilical-corded terminals to PCs... same analogy for farming.  This is the first time in history its becoming technologically and economically feasible.

The concept is based upon this fact I believe to be true:  If food production existed solely on technology (which is developing at an exponential rate and eliminates all uncontrolled variables, like weather); the cost of growing food will be that of electricity.  If anyone else is a Singularitist like myself, you'd agree with the hypothesis of the law of accelerating returns which will enable the cost of electricity to continually approach zero until it's too cheap to meter. 

Here's the end game: What would the world be like if food were essentially free and required no human labor inputs?  My hypothesis is there will be a massive amount of cognitive surplus to work on developing creativity-based solutions (something computer don't quite do well yet...).  People would have the opportunity to work on what they want to do, not work a job they don't like because they HAVE to, in order to put food on the table...     

Not everyone will agree with me but I believe farming to be one of the most broken industries in existence today.  The vast majority of food isn't being grown for taste or nutrition anymore - it's being grown to travel (at the unnecessary expense of precious resources).   

I'd be happy to go into further detail about the platform may potentially operate, but the basics are as follows:
  • People will autonomously grow their own fresh produce in a home grow system (size will range from 'desktop' to scalable, modular & expandable systems the size of large rooms or a basement)
  • Each personal home grow system will be outfitted with a sensory system collecting data from every variable needed to grow
  • Every node will be connected to each other and each node on the network will be constantly striving to be as efficient as the most efficient node in the network (a machine learning neural network with a positive feedback loop)
  • Monetization, incentives, & tracking/security of the food produced will be logged with blockchains

The UX would be something like an Amazon Fresh front end and food would be delivered to (or harvested directly at) your living space, exactly when you need it.

After searching for over 2 years on how this system may be able to monitor and track the network at scale, AND has the ability to monetize & incentivize the bootstrapping of the network; I landed on bitcoin and blockchain technology. ...As a technologically objective engineer - I quickly found my way to the BitShares community and the rest - is history [in the making]  ;D.  Much like BitShares, we're looking to create an industry that solves problems for billions of people.  Over the next 3-5 years, we'll be engineering the initial hardware development for the grow systems and bootstrap the development of the network to bring it online.  I imagine many many opportunities for embedded systems startups to work in the space. 

My background is Mechanical Engineering, my co-founder is also a mechanical engineer currently working on his Master's in Robotics at Northwestern.  We're in the active mode of putting together a world-class team to begin operating in stealth.  There isn't a doubt in my mind that BitShares (both the technology and the community) will play a very large role in realizing this vision.  If you'd like to learn more about myself, my co-founder and our progress over the past few years, check out: http://www.futuretechfarm.com/about/#founders.  There are a couple of videos of public pitches we've made, along with some of the details from our early investors & pre-seed funding.  We're working on building out the roadmap for our seed round of funding now.  I would love to initiate conversation about working with the BitShares community, and core dev team, to do so through the BitShares ecosystem within the next year.  Any questions - feel free to send me a PM, e-mail (contact info on website), or shoot a tweet to @brianfalther or @futuretechfarm. I'd also be more than happy to chat on Google Hangout, Skype, or the BitShares mumble server.

To give you an idea with where we're at now, the most recent development for FTF is with regards to continuing the next phase build out of our team.  I'm a big fan of Peter Diamandis and the work he has done.  Peter has developed a mastermind group of entrepreneurs and exponential thinkers from all over the world who meet each year in January to discuss emerging technologies and philosophies that will change the world as we know it.  The name of this group is called Abundance 360 (here's the website: http://abundance360summit.com/ - Apply! I'm sure many of you would also be a great fit).  I sent in my application a few weeks back, went through an interview last week, and was accepted.  I don't personally have the money to pay for the membership and make the trip, but will be crowdfunding my way there (keep an eye out in the near future... I'll be looking for sponsors!)  I know if I can get in front of Peter and his network of insane connections; we'll be able to put together the dream team needed to make this a reality.  There's also the added benefit of this year's summit having a module & discussion based entirely on bitcoin and blockchain tech - I'm SURE I can get in front of a crowd and speak about BitShares.

Peter was kind enough to make a personalized response to me too!



If this resonates with anyone and you're interested in working with us - let me know!  My co-founder and I would love to have a conversation with you (we meet online weekly on Tuesdays at 8pm eastern - we'd be happy for you to jump into our hangout and chat about ideas and progress; BYOB)

Tom - if you'd be willing to cover what we're working on through Koinify, give me a shout! 

-Brian

TLDR; Robots, autonomously growing food for the whole world, based on blockchain tech.
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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2014, 12:25:58 AM »
... still big farms have a WAY higher *efficiency* .. just consider the big machines they can use .. and efficiency is an important issue when it comes to energy supply and the second law of thermodynamics (i.e. global warming)

Good point Xeroc - I agree energy supply is an important factor, but I don't believe its isolated on just the farms.  In the U.S. food is shipped, on average, about 1900 miles from the source of production. 

Going off on a tangent here, but there are also a lot of REALLY big issues I have with the sheer volume of pesticides, insecticides, and fungicides being dumped over the plants that are inevitably accelerating climate change and damaging ecosystems.  I don't have issues with GMO's (again, technologically objective perspective); what I do have an issue with is why GMO's are developed, enabling monopolies to force the ever increasing usage of harmful chemicals.

I also believe this goes beyond efficiencies.  I was catching drinks with my boss last night and he brought up a really good point; do we really know what we're putting into our bodies?  Like really??  I would love to know 100% exactly what inorganic materials and what ratios of those materials make up the plant matter I'm ingesting.  I would also like to have the assurance that I'm not ingesting chemicals "known to the state of California" to cause cancer.  And I'd like fresh strawberries when there's a foot of snow outside.  Or heirloom tomatoes.  Or arugula where the flavor profile is dialed in just right.

This is just the tip of the ice berg with what's possible and I say we bring back the flavor first and foremost. :-D

My intention is not at all to diminish what you are doing. It sounds really cool. But I am interested to see what your thoughts are on something like Soylent? I mean in some sense it is a very depressing way forward for humanity. People enjoy eating fresh natural food. But there is a lot of efficiency to be gained by taking advantage of economies of scale to farm nutrients and then convert the nutrition into a form that can travel really well over long distances without spoiling. And I don't even think it would need to travel that far. Someday in the future, it could be possible to grow the nutrients in well-controlled, large bio-factories powered by nuclear power located not too far away from major population centers.

And I am confident there will always be ample demand for fresh, natural foods for the purpose of luxury and pleasure. But if that becomes something more like a twice a week thing, people could afford to pay higher prices for the better-quality (compared to what most people eat today that is) natural foods. And it is still not clear to me why the economies of scale provided by centralization wouldn't make the high quality foods cheaper than the decentralized alternative. Or is the case that the decentralization is worth the cost for the security it provides families, since food is essential to living? But then you also need to decentralize the other dependencies necessary to grow the food and keep people alive and satisfied: power, water, waste management, mesh networks. Otherwise, not being dependent on centralized institutions for food is kind of meaningless when you are still dependent on them for your electricity/gas and water supply.

Arhag, that's a very good question - I really like the concept and execution of Soylent!  My first hypothesis would be perhaps it could work supplementary to fresh food.  I can envision that at some point in the future, we'll be wearing sensors that can notify us of missing nutrients and can relay to a robotic mixer that will prepare a final meal for the day that "fills in all the nutritional gaps" from your otherwise normal diet.  I think we all have days where we don't eat an ideal concentration or amount of nutrients and are, or are not, aware of the physiological performance deficits.   

I believe there's a certain psychological connection people have developed with the form factor and tastes of particular foods.  I believe Soylent has the potential to replace meals for those who want, or aren't bother by, the user experience drinking all their nutrients.  Personally, I just love the first bite of a freshly picked spinach leaf - something I don't believe will be replicable in a way that would make sense to replace the real thing.

If somebody would like to fund it - I will publicly try Soylent for 30 days and comment on my own experience.



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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2014, 12:31:07 AM »
... still big farms have a WAY higher *efficiency* .. just consider the big machines they can use .. and efficiency is an important issue when it comes to energy supply and the second law of thermodynamics (i.e. global warming)

Good point Xeroc - I agree energy supply is an important factor, but I don't believe its isolated on just the farms.  In the U.S. food is shipped, on average, about 1900 miles from the source of production. 

Going off on a tangent here, but there are also a lot of REALLY big issues I have with the sheer volume of pesticides, insecticides, and fungicides being dumped over the plants that are inevitably accelerating climate change and damaging ecosystems.  I don't have issues with GMO's (again, technologically objective perspective); what I do have an issue with is why GMO's are developed, enabling monopolies to force the ever increasing usage of harmful chemicals.

I also believe this goes beyond efficiencies.  I was catching drinks with my boss last night and he brought up a really good point; do we really know what we're putting into our bodies?  Like really??  I would love to know 100% exactly what inorganic materials and what ratios of those materials make up the plant matter I'm ingesting.  I would also like to have the assurance that I'm not ingesting chemicals "known to the state of California" to cause cancer.  And I'd like fresh strawberries when there's a foot of snow outside.  Or heirloom tomatoes.  Or arugula where the flavor profile is dialed in just right.

This is just the tip of the ice berg with what's possible and I say we bring back the flavor first and foremost. :-D

My intention is not at all to diminish what you are doing. It sounds really cool. But I am interested to see what your thoughts are on something like Soylent? I mean in some sense it is a very depressing way forward for humanity. People enjoy eating fresh natural food. But there is a lot of efficiency to be gained by taking advantage of economies of scale to farm nutrients and then convert the nutrition into a form that can travel really well over long distances without spoiling. And I don't even think it would need to travel that far. Someday in the future, it could be possible to grow the nutrients in well-controlled, large bio-factories powered by nuclear power located not too far away from major population centers.

And I am confident there will always be ample demand for fresh, natural foods for the purpose of luxury and pleasure. But if that becomes something more like a twice a week thing, people could afford to pay higher prices for the better-quality (compared to what most people eat today that is) natural foods. And it is still not clear to me why the economies of scale provided by centralization wouldn't make the high quality foods cheaper than the decentralized alternative. Or is the case that the decentralization is worth the cost for the security it provides families, since food is essential to living? But then you also need to decentralize the other dependencies necessary to grow the food and keep people alive and satisfied: power, water, waste management, mesh networks. Otherwise, not being dependent on centralized institutions for food is kind of meaningless when you are still dependent on them for your electricity/gas and water supply.

Arhag, that's a very good question - I really like the concept and execution of Soylent!  My first hypothesis would be perhaps it could work supplementary to fresh food.  I believe there's a certain psychological connection people have developed with the form factor and tastes of particular foods.  I believe Soylent has the potential to replace meals for those who want, or aren't bother by, the user experience drinking all their nutrients.  Personally, I just love the first bite of a freshly picked spinach leaf - something I don't believe will be replicable in a way that would make sense to replace the real thing.

If somebody would like to fund it - I will publicly try Soylent for 30 days and comment on my own experience.

This is a joke right?  You will have to pry my grass fed steak from my cold dead hands!!

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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2014, 12:36:58 AM »
I am not claiming we know everything about nutrition. My only claim is that we cannot learn more without scientific experimentation. To the extent people are voluntarily willing to try these sorts of diets that have very precise measurements of the nutrients contained within, we can learn a lot about what we still do not know about the human body's needs. That is after all how we learned about so many vitamins (people suffered from malnutrition because their diet wasn't giving them the essential vitamins they needed, and it was only after investigating the reason behind their suffering that we were able to learn that fact and improve our understanding of the biology).

I agree with this perspective.

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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2014, 12:45:23 AM »
I really like the concept and execution of Soylent!  My first hypothesis would be perhaps it could work supplementary to fresh food.  I can envision that at some point in the future, we'll be wearing sensors that can notify us of missing nutrients and can relay to a robotic mixer that will prepare a final meal for the day that "fills in all the nutritional gaps" from your otherwise normal diet.  I think we all have days where we don't eat an ideal concentration or amount of nutrients and are, or are not, aware of the physiological performance deficits.   

I believe there's a certain psychological connection people have developed with the form factor and tastes of particular foods.  I believe Soylent has the potential to replace meals for those who want, or aren't bother by, the user experience drinking all their nutrients.  Personally, I just love the first bite of a freshly picked spinach leaf - something I don't believe will be replicable in a way that would make sense to replace the real thing.

I agree. Mostly because I don't think people could stand going on it 100% (perhaps that would be acceptable for some military operations though). Food is very pleasurable. But I can envision a future where people have less of their meals as the typical foods they currently eat and instead bifurcate to fresh gourmet high-quality meals for some of the meals of the week and fill in the rest of their nutritional gaps with something like Soylent (perhaps like you said custom tuned to your particular needs for that day based on internal bio-sensors that communicate your needs to the robotic mixer).

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2014, 12:48:54 AM »
This is a joke right?  You will have to pry my grass fed steak from my cold dead hands!!

Well, this is all voluntary. No one is going to grab it from your cold dead hands. You can keep eating the grass fed steak as long as you can afford it. In fact, I would imagine more people would afford to switch from the cheaper steaks they eat today to grass fed steaks since the cost of the rest of their meals could drop significantly.

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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2014, 12:51:59 AM »
What about a more "efficient" robot wife and/or mistress?  How about more obedient manufactured children? 

Do you want to re-engineer just food or people as well?  Oh, I forgot, soylent green is made from PEOPLE!! LOL


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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2014, 12:54:38 AM »
This is a joke right?  You will have to pry my grass fed steak from my cold dead hands!!

Well, this is all voluntary. No one is going to grab it from your cold dead hands. You can keep eating the grass fed steak as long as you can afford it. In fact, I would imagine more people would afford to switch from the cheaper steaks they eat today to grass fed steaks since the cost of the rest of their meals could drop significantly.

Oh, that's good.  It's always voluntary...in the begining...:) 

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2014, 01:12:34 AM »
What about a more "efficient" robot wife and/or mistress?  How about more obedient manufactured children? 

Do you want to re-engineer just food or people as well?  Oh, I forgot, soylent green is made from PEOPLE!! LOL

You joke, but there will almost certainly be sex robots and robotic pets in the future (and lots of demand for them). But those tools aren't going to replace the love of a real family, just like efficient nutrient delivery won't replace the desire for humans to at least have some of their meals be natural foods (caveat: that is not necessarily true but let's just pretend that is the case to avoid getting too sci-fi). These technologies only create more options for people not less.

I think I will stop continuing the discussion along this path at the risk of derailing this topic as well. I don't even want to get into topics of transhumanism and artificial intelligence. If you are this bothered by Soylent, I can only imagine your reaction to those topics.

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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2014, 01:21:56 AM »
What about a more "efficient" robot wife and/or mistress?  How about more obedient manufactured children? 

Do you want to re-engineer just food or people as well?  Oh, I forgot, soylent green is made from PEOPLE!! LOL

You joke, but there will almost certainly be sex robots and robotic pets in the future (and lots of demand for them). But those tools aren't going to replace the love of a real family, just like efficient nutrient delivery won't replace the desire for humans to at least have some of their meals be natural foods (caveat: that is not necessarily true but let's just pretend that is the case to avoid getting too sci-fi). These technologies only create more options for people not less.

I think I will stop continuing the discussion along this path at the risk of derailing this topic as well. I don't even want to get into topics of transhumanism and artificial intelligence. If you are this bothered by Soylent, I can only imagine your reaction to those topics.

I'm not against all such things as it might sound.  I'm a sucker for tech...(that's how they'll lure me into the camps I'm sure...promises of high-speed internet, big screen tv, personal robot...lol).  I just know it can be  a slippery slope and can be used to serve malevolent agendas....so I'm cautious. :) 

In a way you could say I already take a version of "soylent".  I'm a big supplement taker and belong to the Life Extension Foundation.  I'm half way there!!  ;D

For a maybe contrary view on transhumanism this is an interesting article someone wrote on my site sometime ago.  He was very concerned about the roots of and potential misuses of this technology:

http://www.galtreport.com/index.php/politics/commentary/item/653-you-will-be-assimilated

Okay, I'm out for now. 
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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 01:30:31 PM »
Brian- I cannot wait to see this vision come to life. You guys have been working hard on Future Tech Farm for years now and it is great to see the tools needed to develop the "technical backbone" for such an autonomous food production system starting to come into existence with the rapid and continuing innovations happening in the blockchain space. I'm really looking forward to seeing what the Adept platform looks like and how it simplifies distributed IoT systems.

And man, talk about "big fish"! I will definitely support your crowd funding for the mastermind group, not only because introducing a bunch of forward thinking entrepreneurs to the DAC metaphor is never a bad thing; but also because I think both of these systems is a HUGE step towards equalization of standards of living across the globe. Let's change the world!

Thanks robrigo! 
I can't wait to introduce the DAC metaphor and get people even more excited about BitShares

Just met with a videographer/designer yesterday - we're aiming to put together a video by the end of Oct (hopefully sooner) to launch via Kickstarter or Indiegogo. 

Do you guys think we should focus on raising funds for the sponsorship to the summit alone or just a general pitch for FTF (with the potential to raise additional funds)?  What kind of incentives would you be interested in if you were to support?


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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2014, 01:49:19 PM »
So delulo asked me a question in a PM - I'm posting it here for others to think about (with his permission) and my response below.  I would love to generate conversation around the need, or not, for the production of physical items (specifically food) to have integrated blockchains.

Hey, can it be said (in short) why a DAC (decentralized ledger) is required for the robot food production idea you have?


Hey Delulo!

I *think* a DAC would be best suited for the monetization of a distributed food production platform and for securing the integrity (health safety) of the food produced. 

Looking for people who can help me prove whether its necessary or not.  I believe it is and I'm willing to put in the research to find out ;)


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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2014, 02:40:53 PM »
So delulo asked me a question in a PM - I'm posting it here for others to think about (with his permission) and my response below.  I would love to generate conversation around the need, or not, for the production of physical items (specifically food) to have integrated blockchains.

Hey, can it be said (in short) why a DAC (decentralized ledger) is required for the robot food production idea you have?


Hey Delulo!

I *think* a DAC would be best suited for the monetization of a distributed food production platform and for securing the integrity (health safety) of the food produced. 

Looking for people who can help me prove whether its necessary or not.  I believe it is and I'm willing to put in the research to find out ;)


I may have missed the part where  you explain how exactly you intend to use the blockchain, is sound interesting but is  is still vague. Can you please explains the details a bit more ? 

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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2014, 04:37:40 PM »
So delulo asked me a question in a PM - I'm posting it here for others to think about (with his permission) and my response below.  I would love to generate conversation around the need, or not, for the production of physical items (specifically food) to have integrated blockchains.

Hey, can it be said (in short) why a DAC (decentralized ledger) is required for the robot food production idea you have?


Hey Delulo!

I *think* a DAC would be best suited for the monetization of a distributed food production platform and for securing the integrity (health safety) of the food produced. 

Looking for people who can help me prove whether its necessary or not.  I believe it is and I'm willing to put in the research to find out ;)


I may have missed the part where  you explain how exactly you intend to use the blockchain, is sound interesting but is  is still vague. Can you please explains the details a bit more ?

Definitely!

I think an easier way of describing what I'm thinking is to attempt to draw similarities between food production and bitcoin (specifically thinking about the mining process and the problem of centralization) in which Growing food = "mining". There are only a few companies that basically control the global food production (Monsanto, DuPont, Syngenta, BASF, Bayer, DOW, etc..) 

(Green = seed companies, White = chemical companies)

I envision the platform as a whole may operate in something like a 2 tier multi-chain blockchain implementation; whereas in similar fashion as currently applies to bitcoin through POW, I would call "Proof of Growth" POG (shout out to robrigo for coining the term during one of our chats on G+) for food production.  This first tier (POG) would be responsible for the tracking of the production and the physical output of food.  The second tier would be utilized for the monetization of the network in a profitable way utilizing BitShares as the backbone a la DPOS.

Breaking it down in further detail:
  • Farmers will need hardware systems to autonomously grow food (FTF is working on engineering these initial systems and they most definitely will be "application specific" ;) )
  • The first tier integration of a blockchain - I'm hypothesizing - would be to track and secure (through a public ledger) the production of every plant grown in the network (what an upgrade from farming today right?).  By "secure" I would define as the anonymous (or not) validation that: "this particular plant has been grown to standards as agreed upon by the consensus of the platform" (i.e. no detection of harmful chemicals founds (pesticides, fungicides, etc.); no disease witnessed during production cycle; etc.) 
  • The second tier integration of a blockchain would be with regards to monetization and incentive structure for the farmer's themselves.  As this would operate in the form factor of a decentralized neural network - there will inevitably nodes in the platform that are more efficient due to the input effort and knowledge of the corresponding farmer (THIS is where I believe the potential of a DAC TRULY exists.  It's a network that can operate incorruptibly, but enables the input of human resources that can be capitalized.)  I believe the network should objectively reward the most efficient farming systems as these are what the rest of the network nodes will strive to replicate and pull information from.
The problem I'm striving to solve is: 
Food production is controlled by only a handful of companies (called an Agropoly - Here is GREAT resource I just found: http://www.econexus.info/sites/econexus/files/Agropoly_Econexus_BerneDeclaration_wide-format.pdf). 

How do we incentivize a structure that rewards farmers for sharing information to make food production orders of magnitude more efficient, orders of magnitude less expensive, orders of magnitude safer for consumption & the environment, and completely incorruptible? 

I believe, the answer is in blockchains.  Thoughts?

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Re: [DAC Proposal] Future Tech Farm
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2014, 02:27:04 AM »
I know nothing about farming so please bear with me. I see what you trying to achieve that will be great !! I still don't understand the mechanics of the system and the use of blockchain.
 

  • Farmers will need hardware systems to autonomously grow food (FTF is working on engineering these initial systems and they most definitely will be "application specific" ;) )

Can you expand on that. Can you give a example what that system will look like ? 


  • The first tier integration of a blockchain - I'm hypothesizing - would be to track and secure (through a public ledger) the production of every plant grown in the network (what an upgrade from farming today right?).  By "secure" I would define as the anonymous (or not) validation that: "this particular plant has been grown to standards as agreed upon by the consensus of the platform" (i.e. no detection of harmful chemicals founds (pesticides, fungicides, etc.); no disease witnessed during production cycle; etc.) 

How you gonna track all that ? I mean  how you gonna validate and how you gonna input it  on the blockchain ?  How could we prevent fraud ?


  • The second tier integration of a blockchain would be with regards to monetization and incentive structure for the farmer's themselves.  As this would operate in the form factor of a decentralized neural network - there will inevitably nodes in the platform that are more efficient due to the input effort and knowledge of the corresponding farmer (THIS is where I believe the potential of a DAC TRULY exists.  It's a network that can operate incorruptibly, but enables the input of human resources that can be capitalized.)  I believe the network should objectively reward the most efficient farming systems as these are what the rest of the network nodes will strive to replicate and pull information from.

    How do we incentivize a structure that rewards farmers for sharing information to make food production orders of magnitude more efficient, orders of magnitude less expensive, orders of magnitude safer for consumption & the environment, and completely incorruptible? 

Don't understand the second tier at all. I don't see where is  the incentive  for a farmer to share any information.

I don't see the link between the two tier [/list]

 

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