票---------------------投起来，兄弟们!!

Quote from: BunkerChain Labs on April 02, 2016, 12:46:31 pm

Quote from: gamey on April 02, 2016, 11:32:54 am

If people can't tell I find this whole thing pretty obnoxious.

I think the Chinese have a point.  Looks at the scape's video.  How many BTS did they get for that?  1600 views?  I thought it was a waste to begin with, but a real video that would be effective would have been work and not fun. Those guys milked that for a looong time. The non-technical scape was part of the reason I left. The other one was ended up being extremely valuable to the BTS ecosystem.

In the current form, I would never wish to work for the blockchain.  At one point I thought it was a cool idea.  Very sci-fi.  Neat stuff.  Now, I realize that the more you put your own well being in the hands of others, the more likely you are to just get screwed.  This is even more true, the more talented you are. I would not touch working for the BTS blockchain unless I absolutely had to do it. Far too many unknowns and whims of people controlling things.

The reason I was pulled into this thread is because someone suggested that a developer should just buy their stake, implement a feature and Allah willing they'd end up selling their stake for more. I'd love to see someone actually come up with numbers on how that is to work. It means the developer has enough money to gamble on BTS and then have enough to live off until they can cash back out. This only works assuming the gamble has a good chance of paying off.  What happens if BTS drops 40% during that time but then goes up 30% after the developers work is released?  How much money vs % of increase is required for this to be reasonable given what an average person would be willing to invest. To suggest this is an alternative model for development is stupid.  It assumes future developers must already be wealthy. Unlikely. 

I have never been against people judging the proposals on their individual merits.  I have never been against people being against dilution in general. I have been against this blind marching forward with nothing more than hope, while other projects are actually implementing new features.  I personally learned it was a big mistake putting much faith in Bytemaster's decision making. That doesn't impact my views on this.  To the contrary - I WANT to see BTS grow up and not be dependent on him. Shutting down all dilution/payment is not the way to do this.  It is just a recipe to not be competitive.

Spot on... 

Keep in mind from where you sit your arguements make perfect sense.

From China.. when they see the tons of money that Westerners make.. they think we are all rich and should be able to buy shares in the ridiculous way that has been suggested.

Also from where they sit, developers are being paid far too much.

DACPlay received over $1m in donations about 14 months ago. By western standards this can fuel a  sizable dev team for a good 2 years. In China terms,  20 years. Yet we haven't seen one single free improvement delivered from them since 2.0.

From all I have seen.. the Worker proposal is not well suited for independent  developers in its current iteration, but better suited to well funded companies that can do all the extras about detailed reports, marketing themselves, and even potentially taking payment in some vested balance.

When you see other graphene chains come up where work they do can, if not paid, simply be taken to the next chain that is willing to pay for it, then you will might see this happen.

Right now though as many can see, we have a regime that is attempting to put a strangle hold to it all... possibly because of some of the things I mentioned, making the time ripe for a company with the available funds to just launch a competitor to Bitshares... a competitor that understands innovate or die. How's our 1.5% current dilution going to look then? Kinda like too little too late.

Have you looked at coinmarketcap recently ?
It doesn't take a company with funding to compete with BTS . A coin with a silly Doge face is doing it already .
Dogecoin is already doing it with zero features/zero funding .

Figure out how to beat Dogecoin , and I'll have a serious conversation with you . 

Of course , you will say ..."Dogecoin is pump and dump , marketcap doesn't count " . But how can you talk about beating all the innovation projects by increasing dilution when you can't even beat a silly project called Doge ?

+10000*5%

Quote from: laow on March 29, 2016, 09:22:15 am

@Ben Mason , we all love bts. I am not again the development, but I don't like the Worker Way just as Yunbi.
like you said,  hope one day bitshares true value will reveal itself

you said what I want to say.

Quote from: abit on March 27, 2016, 06:25:55 pm

That‘s no doubt about that poloniex、btc38 had make a contribution to the BTS，I think they can creat a worker and vote himself ,
Maybe you will say they are crazy ,but The capital market is always crazy.
assuming that some has many BTS, or he can get many votes like this ,creat a worker and vote hinself , but he doesn't work ,so what?
Rely on the moral ? or rely on the rule ?

If this will come sooner or later, better sooner than later. Let them do it, drive the price down, so real believers can buy in cheaper.

You wanted this, didn't you？  @abit

没看懂，默默走开。。。


















...几百w bts，怎么投？？

设置dacs为代理投票就可以了，其他不用管，等票数达到就分红。倘若票数达不到，也可以提高BM增发的门槛，dacs支持baozi的所有投票。

意思是要搞个超级票仓给自己增发？
不如四十万全部拿来分吧

不能太绝吧，毕竟要给BM留点面子。

BTS唯一原则-----------------票

票多者胜
票少者败

在BTS系统规则之下
允许BM增发发工资，稀释咱们的股份，
但也允许增发分红，补贴稀释的股份。
只是一直没人站出来干。。。

现在有了投票POS补贴稀释，如果通不过，那也是因为票不够，不是因为规则。

这样有2个好处
1、票够，补贴稀释
2、票不够，提高BM增发门槛，让真正有用的应用落地。


请抬起您的贵手，设置dacs为代理吧。BM给了你分红机会，只是你不知道要领。

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                  看不懂的不用看了，没有代币，不需要投资，只要设置dacs为代理投票，然后等着分红吧。
简介

废话少说进主题：
BM疯了，增发越来越猖狂。
第一版BTS：手续费销毁，资产注册销毁
0.9.XBTS：手续费资产注册费通通归代表不在销毁
2.0初版：增发12亿，101个代表减少为51个witness，同时增加1.5BTS每块增发工资和worker工资
2.0中版：51个witness减少为23个
2.0终极版：减去反对票，不准反对worker增发
后面的版本留点想象空间......


投票POS应运而生。。。

可解决的问题
1、BM增发导致股份稀释问题
2、解决屌丝投票不积极问题

解决方案
1、分红，按照投票POS的BTS持有每日分红
2、还是分红。



投票POS规则

18WBTS总量/天
管理工资：8000BTS/天  2000bts/天   （因为价格翻倍了）   0BTS/天  a神你别黑
分红对象：设置dacs为代理者
分红时间：晚上23-1点
分红标准：以账号中分红时间BTS持有量为准
分红数量：((pos的新币-管理工资)/分红bts总量)*bts持有量-转账手续费
分红开始时间：投票通过之日


投票POS参与方法
设置DACS为代理，投票通过之日即分红之时


完！！望大家积极参与，对自己被稀释的BTS负责。
另外，dacs支持baozi


后附：每日清单

这还用问？GFW...