I understood that Moonstone have to accept only BTC not to harm their profitability. But Here're several thoughts.

1. The main target of Moonstone is BTSers. In recent bear market, their portfolio consists of mainly BTS, not BTC.

2. It is very hard to appeal the advantage of Moonstone to outside of community.

3. BTS whales do not want to move the market downwards. That is, they are hesitate to convert their lots of BTS into BTC, for the fundraising.

4. So many are waiting for BTS price increase. But I'm not sure this happens in a month. This results in one of two scenario: 1) People suddenly sell BTS to donate Moonstone, and price will drop enormously, 2) Moonstone fails to achieve the goal.

If Moonstone accept BTS, I believe many big BTS owners will put out their cold wallet money and donate for Moonstone. The success of Moonstone will spur price increase and Moonstone may have better profitability.

We just put up the poll on the original Moonstone diary thread. Please let us know what you think. We're open to any and all suggestions as long as they don;t break the original promise to the BTC owner!

We completely agree with all your points!

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15138.0.html

It seems that there is such a strong interest to donate BTS rather than BTC our crowdfunder that some people are thinking about buying MOONFUND tokens on the internal exchange straight with BTS. (See this thread https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,15663.0/topicseen.html)

We're opening therefore a poll to see whether enough people are interested in us putting a sell order of Moonstones at about 0.9-0.92 BTS on the internal exchange. This way almost everybody should be able to participate (though at a slightly lower potential return rate, as we still need to cash out to fiat for operations). We would then also need to update the funds collected on the website manually a few times a day.

Please let us know what you think, and please vote in the poll!

I want to donate from the moonstone.io  but it tell me I will get 50200 moonfund for one bitcoin.
But If I buy from metaxchange, the moonfund price is 0.00001704, that is about 58000 moonfund per bitcoin.

Some body can tell me why? I dare not donate for now.

The price of BTS moved within that time period faster than our API call to our price feed. Metaexchange is showing the correct amount. The correct amount should be displayed within a few minutes on Moonstone.io. Both are just estimates as the final amount is calculated once the first Bitcoin confirmation happens after 10-15 minutes.

If you want to see your final balance faster, and if you already have a TITAN ID with the current wallet, you can use Metaexchange. After 10-15 minutes you'll get your MOONFUND tokens.

Please let us know whether there are any other issues you encounter!

Quote from: bitsapphire on April 09, 2015, 09:21:22 pm

Quote from: Bitcoinfan on April 09, 2015, 05:14:30 pm

What happens when you reach your goal?  Will you still refund the donations made after $150k with 15% yield?  What if you had 500k dumped on your site.  Is there anything preventing you from meeting the target of 15% yield for 500K in donations?

If we get 500k dumped then that will be the least of our worries . We would be able to integrate Bitcoin much faster, create a decentralized bridging service, and decentralize the server setup into an oracle setup. Not to mention that we could start with the modularization of the system for future plugins too. If anything like that happens we'll figure out an even better way to compensate everybody!

Assuming though we simply pass the 130k goal, based on our calculation and the current BTS exchange rate up to 300k USD worth of MOONFUNDS should be no problem with 5 delegates.

Does that address your concerns?

Yeah thats great.  Btw what's your story?  How did you find out about bitshares?  And why bitshares?  Any other projects you guys worked on before you came here?

Here's  a great video interview Max did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sDU-ooXq-E

This should answer all your questions.

Quote from: bitsapphire on April 10, 2015, 10:55:37 am

Actually I think there was a Litecoin implementation too.

Which is almost identical to bitcoin ..
the trezor can basically use any satoshi blockchain wich marginal modifications

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As long as the crypto works the same everything is possible (though not with TITAN). There are very few actual problems we've encountered.

So far we've just played around with it. once 1.0 is out our plan is to start working on it more seriously.

Maybe I can help with that.. I already have good knowledge about the blockchain transaction format (https://github.com/xeroc/python-bitsharestools/blob/master/bitsharestools/transactions.py)

What made me halt on developing trezor for bts is (besides of lack of time) .. the implementation of the wire format on the USB interface.
I think the best approach would be to define new protobuf messages for bitshares transactions .. but I haven't read into the trezor implementation (trezor-emu -- python) .. to much to can come up with a 'good' AND flexible solution to enable bts signing on trezor ..
But I totally agree that trezor will certainly not work nicely with TITAN .. but it would work with BIP38 and 'deterministically' derived keys in the tree .. (TITAN is not directly 'deterministic' if you don't know the 'shared secret' from the stealth address) ..

The only problem we encountered which might be serious is that Trezor accounts for the Bitcoin hash formats being of variable size depending on how you built the transaction, while BTS does not do that. In a sense the exception handling happening for BTC might be an issue for BTS integration. We discovered this issue after looking into different cross-chain exchange options for Moonstone.

"4. More videos, especially interviews. Does anybody know any vloggers or podcasters? That is super effective!"



P2P tour has had some connection with Arthur from Bitcoins and Gravy podcast.

Does anyone here still have a relationship with Adam B Levine also?

@bitscape @roadscape @kencode

Arthur, yes. We wanted to talk with him about Moonstone and another project too actually. We should set something up within the next 2 weeks.

as far as I know it would be theyr first non bitcoin crypto adopted.

just bitcoin, colored coins and bitshares.

and they advertise widely

Actually I think there was a Litecoin implementation too.

As long as the crypto works the same everything is possible (though not with TITAN). There are very few actual problems we've encountered.

So far we've just played around with it. once 1.0 is out our plan is to start working on it more seriously.

Yep, the Metaexchange guys are awesome. Great to work with you!